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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2483959" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>sure I did, but given where the parenthesis were it seemed like they were refering to only the part that they were next to and not the whole thing. Especially with the 'in general' part at the beginning.</p><p></p><p>So it read something like this:</p><p>'Everyone/Most at wotc and a fair portion of the community (though I hesistate to say a majority)...'</p><p></p><p>Hence my comments. It seems odd to say 'many/most/all' and then say 'but not necissarily a majority', they are highly contradictory. So I assumed you meant one for the first and the other for the second, as that is the only way that makes sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Magic items are in contradiction? I know that not all follow the general 'guidelines', but since those are said to be 'guidelines' and that you should 'compare to item that already exist first' I dont see how they are breaking any rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, at least one designer has said why. He said that it was because they made a mistake in the core by not giving the elves a +2 int to begin with and so didnt want to make any other races that they made be automatically 'better' than the elf at being a wizard.</p><p></p><p>Which of course I say is nonsense. Having the +2 to dex is a 'huge' benefit to many caster types anyway. Having a +2 int is very comparable to that.</p><p></p><p>Sure, each provides a different 'kind' of bonus and one could argue that each is better for a specific case, but overall I feel that they are pretty equal.</p><p></p><p>But then +2 dex doesnt really push 'spellcaster', it is merely just as good in a number of ways.</p><p></p><p>Still though, at some point they will either correct this mistake or figure out a different way around it. I dont see any reason at all why there cant be a race out there which is more suited to being a wizard than the elf. After all, the elves descriptive text seems to make them much more of a sorc anyway <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It certainly isnt 'overpowered' to allow + mental stat races at LA +0 in my experience. I have seen them in action a few different times, along with their nonmenta l stat counterparts (although since the nons are more numerous I have seen the nons more often). They each had their different strengths and that was all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 2483959, member: 5777"] sure I did, but given where the parenthesis were it seemed like they were refering to only the part that they were next to and not the whole thing. Especially with the 'in general' part at the beginning. So it read something like this: 'Everyone/Most at wotc and a fair portion of the community (though I hesistate to say a majority)...' Hence my comments. It seems odd to say 'many/most/all' and then say 'but not necissarily a majority', they are highly contradictory. So I assumed you meant one for the first and the other for the second, as that is the only way that makes sense. Magic items are in contradiction? I know that not all follow the general 'guidelines', but since those are said to be 'guidelines' and that you should 'compare to item that already exist first' I dont see how they are breaking any rules. No, at least one designer has said why. He said that it was because they made a mistake in the core by not giving the elves a +2 int to begin with and so didnt want to make any other races that they made be automatically 'better' than the elf at being a wizard. Which of course I say is nonsense. Having the +2 to dex is a 'huge' benefit to many caster types anyway. Having a +2 int is very comparable to that. Sure, each provides a different 'kind' of bonus and one could argue that each is better for a specific case, but overall I feel that they are pretty equal. But then +2 dex doesnt really push 'spellcaster', it is merely just as good in a number of ways. Still though, at some point they will either correct this mistake or figure out a different way around it. I dont see any reason at all why there cant be a race out there which is more suited to being a wizard than the elf. After all, the elves descriptive text seems to make them much more of a sorc anyway :uhoh: It certainly isnt 'overpowered' to allow + mental stat races at LA +0 in my experience. I have seen them in action a few different times, along with their nonmenta l stat counterparts (although since the nons are more numerous I have seen the nons more often). They each had their different strengths and that was all. [/QUOTE]
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