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Message: <blockquote data-quote="andargor" data-source="post: 2657083" data-attributes="member: 7231">VoP can be powerful with the right classes, yes.Our DM bans it from player use, but uses it as a plot/RP device. For example, the party leader and my character, who both worship the same god, were imposed VoP by said god for various reasons.He's a cleric oriented towards Diplomacy, so it gave him a needed power boost which he was lacking.For my character, it was another story... He's a Wizard, so bye-bye spellbook. The DM allowed the exchange of existing feats for Sacred Vow/VoP and a bunch of Spell Mastery (at the characters current Int, which was fairly high). Wizards gain power exponentially at high levels, so it toned him down somewhat. It was a shift in abilities, really. My character became much more resilient, and I had to choose the spells I kept carefully. Less feats, but he's still potent offensively. I actually like the change, it was refreshing... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Andargor</blockquote>