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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6095011" data-attributes="member: 4937">Not until you mentioned it.D&D 3rd edition seems to have made a concious choice to limit glamers to disguising individuals and not objects.  I confess I never really noted it until you mention it.  Looking over the illusion spell list, there is a distinct lack of variaty in the spell effects.  I think I'll remedy that.The closest I can find in the official canon is 'Deceptive Facade' from complete mage, but the problem with the spell - and probably the reason that 3rd edition hasn't dealt with this issue properly - is the spell has a distinct lack of mechanics to handle the consequences of a disguise.  In particular, I'd want some sort of interaction with the appraise skill to detect cheating object value.   But in general, other than changing assumptions, the main effect I can see of glamers of this sort is that they have a very wide effect on skill use in the environment.  I think I'll write up a new illsuion spell series this weekend.I have a cantrip called 'Coil the Shadows' that makes you momentarily appear large and menancing, granting you a bonus on your intimidation checks.</blockquote>