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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stonehead" data-source="post: 9848140" data-attributes="member: 7047885">To push back slightly against this, when I think about the rules that I've ignored at my table, they've been complicated rules that don't come up very often. If it's only going to happen once or twice every dozen sessions, I'm less likely to remember how the rules work, and if it's very complicated, I'm less likely to learn them mid-session.[HR][/HR][USER=7024893]@TheAlkaizer[/USER] already mentioned this, but complexity is the cost of adding things to your game, it generally shouldn't be seen as a goal in and of itself. What are you trying to get out of these sub-systems? Why do you want a ritual to take an entire session?You listed a half-dozen things that could be components of a ritual, but I haven't seen a justification for why they should be separated. A ressurection spell could cost a hundred gold for special salts plus two hundred gold for a rosary plus three hundred gold of healing potions plus four hundred gold for a holy symbol, but that would be no different than it costing a thousand gold worth of diamond dust. To the players, they'll just see it as 1000g either way.The "roll a die and add your bonuses" resolution mechanic for social encounters catches some flak sometimes, but I've never seen anything different actually work better at the table. You could add complexity by requiring a roll for your word choice, and another roll for your pronunciation, another roll for your body language. Doing so wouldn't actually add any depth though. Would failing your pronunciation check mean something different for the game than failing your body language check? Basically never.If you want to keep all these different elements, I think you need to come up with some mechanical or narrative justification for each of them. Is there a meaningful difference between failing the "circle check" compared to failing the "implement check"? Combat is long and complex because there should be meaningful decisions to be made every round. Are there meaningful decisions for the players to make during the "component phase" and the "spell phase"? Or are they just padding?I hope the tone didn't come across too harsh, if you have answers to all these questions, I'm interested in hearing them.</blockquote>

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