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<blockquote data-quote="Eldorian" data-source="post: 4288873" data-attributes="member: 10504"><p>Builds are for noobs. Literally. It's great that they're in the book, but if you want do do something odd, just do it, don't feel that because builds are in the book that you have to actually use them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the trouble with your guy is that he's not a good multiclass. See, defender with arcane multiclass isn't a very good option at current time. The FR book will have a base class that is arcane defender, I think. But that doesn't mean you can't make the classic elven fighter/wizard now.</p><p></p><p>You just have to realize that 4e fighter and 4e wizard aren't what you're looking for. I played a couple bladesingers back in 2e days, so I think I know what I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p>Instead of fighter/wizard, look instead at rogue/warlock, or warlord/wizard. The rogue will either have to use a wand or rod in his offhand at higher level, and the warlord either an offhand implement, or a staff. (staff kinda sounds cool now that I think of it).</p><p></p><p>A rogue/warlock could use the fey pact, and double dip in cha. Eladrin would work for this, tho halfling might be better mechanically. I like Eladrin too, so lets stick with that.</p><p></p><p>So, in the main hand, use a short sword at low levels, upgrade to rapier at higher. In offhand, use a wand or rod. Rod is cooler, tho =P Buncha light blade feats that are good, and you always have warlock powers to pick up.</p><p></p><p>Every level up, pump up dex and cha. There we go, a classic melee and magic character. And he's offensively oriented, which was what a bladesinger was back in 2e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eldorian, post: 4288873, member: 10504"] Builds are for noobs. Literally. It's great that they're in the book, but if you want do do something odd, just do it, don't feel that because builds are in the book that you have to actually use them. I think the trouble with your guy is that he's not a good multiclass. See, defender with arcane multiclass isn't a very good option at current time. The FR book will have a base class that is arcane defender, I think. But that doesn't mean you can't make the classic elven fighter/wizard now. You just have to realize that 4e fighter and 4e wizard aren't what you're looking for. I played a couple bladesingers back in 2e days, so I think I know what I'm talking about. Instead of fighter/wizard, look instead at rogue/warlock, or warlord/wizard. The rogue will either have to use a wand or rod in his offhand at higher level, and the warlord either an offhand implement, or a staff. (staff kinda sounds cool now that I think of it). A rogue/warlock could use the fey pact, and double dip in cha. Eladrin would work for this, tho halfling might be better mechanically. I like Eladrin too, so lets stick with that. So, in the main hand, use a short sword at low levels, upgrade to rapier at higher. In offhand, use a wand or rod. Rod is cooler, tho =P Buncha light blade feats that are good, and you always have warlock powers to pick up. Every level up, pump up dex and cha. There we go, a classic melee and magic character. And he's offensively oriented, which was what a bladesinger was back in 2e. [/QUOTE]
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