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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8836931" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Sure, that is a reason why people may worship Gods. But that doesn't explain why Gods would actively seek worshipers or welcome conversions. In fact, converting someone to their religion would be the worst thing, because that is more people who just are going to be spending their time begging for help. </p><p></p><p>If this was the only reason, then the Gods would <em>despise</em> worshipers, because their only relationship would be "that guy who keeps trying to convince me to help him, every. single. day." It doesn't fit the relationship we generally see.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are using a lot of jargon that I have no idea what you mean by. What is a non-objective god? How is it that "gods need to eat Faith energy" only works from a materialist point of view, whatever that is? How does it take anything divine or mystical out of the equation? </p><p></p><p>And again, sure, there is the theory that under this set-up you can kill the God by killing every single person who believes in them. And again, do you know how many times people have tried that? It really is like a nation, if all you have to do to kill a nation is kill every single person who declares allegiance to that nation, then quite frankly that nation will never die, because it is an impossible task. Especially since God's are active and intelligent forces, not passive ideas that cannot react to their own self-interest. You are literally talking about killing an idea (considered impossible) while that idea can actively seek its own survival. It is an "in theory" sort of proposal, not something that can actually be accomplished.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Literally the problem I'm bringing up....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8836931, member: 6801228"] Sure, that is a reason why people may worship Gods. But that doesn't explain why Gods would actively seek worshipers or welcome conversions. In fact, converting someone to their religion would be the worst thing, because that is more people who just are going to be spending their time begging for help. If this was the only reason, then the Gods would [I]despise[/I] worshipers, because their only relationship would be "that guy who keeps trying to convince me to help him, every. single. day." It doesn't fit the relationship we generally see. You are using a lot of jargon that I have no idea what you mean by. What is a non-objective god? How is it that "gods need to eat Faith energy" only works from a materialist point of view, whatever that is? How does it take anything divine or mystical out of the equation? And again, sure, there is the theory that under this set-up you can kill the God by killing every single person who believes in them. And again, do you know how many times people have tried that? It really is like a nation, if all you have to do to kill a nation is kill every single person who declares allegiance to that nation, then quite frankly that nation will never die, because it is an impossible task. Especially since God's are active and intelligent forces, not passive ideas that cannot react to their own self-interest. You are literally talking about killing an idea (considered impossible) while that idea can actively seek its own survival. It is an "in theory" sort of proposal, not something that can actually be accomplished. Literally the problem I'm bringing up.... [/QUOTE]
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