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Where do fiends come from? (Cosmology)
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<blockquote data-quote="DanMcS" data-source="post: 2411364" data-attributes="member: 6530"><p>In my head, the angels that fall DO tend to become unique individuals. Titivilius, Grazzt, whoever, were originally angels, and fell, and assumed their unique appearances after millenia of self-shaping and environmental shaping. A bunch of them that were follower types became undifferentiated fiends, of the type that eventually became balors and pit fiends.</p><p></p><p>In the old planescape monster manuals, it describes how demons and devils fill their ranks. Basically, they gather larva, which are the souls of deceased evildoers, and shape them into new fiends by torment and dark magic.</p><p></p><p>This is how you get a plethora of fiends that are all of the same type. They create new fiends based on modelling from the old. These shapes DO come from fallen angels- there is a unique fallen named Glabrezu, and one named Vrock, and so on, on whom the eponymous fiends are modelled.</p><p></p><p>So there is your answer- most of them are not fallen angels at all, but were "born" fiends, and were shaped by their masters into useful forms.</p><p></p><p>If you want a way that a large number of angels could fall and have the same form, perhaps a number of them fell, all following one leader in the revolt, and took on the form he chose as a badge of solidarity. Hezrou was the archangel of prowess, and when he fell, swayed by the adversary, many in his service fell, and took on his visage in respect to their leader.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DanMcS, post: 2411364, member: 6530"] In my head, the angels that fall DO tend to become unique individuals. Titivilius, Grazzt, whoever, were originally angels, and fell, and assumed their unique appearances after millenia of self-shaping and environmental shaping. A bunch of them that were follower types became undifferentiated fiends, of the type that eventually became balors and pit fiends. In the old planescape monster manuals, it describes how demons and devils fill their ranks. Basically, they gather larva, which are the souls of deceased evildoers, and shape them into new fiends by torment and dark magic. This is how you get a plethora of fiends that are all of the same type. They create new fiends based on modelling from the old. These shapes DO come from fallen angels- there is a unique fallen named Glabrezu, and one named Vrock, and so on, on whom the eponymous fiends are modelled. So there is your answer- most of them are not fallen angels at all, but were "born" fiends, and were shaped by their masters into useful forms. If you want a way that a large number of angels could fall and have the same form, perhaps a number of them fell, all following one leader in the revolt, and took on the form he chose as a badge of solidarity. Hezrou was the archangel of prowess, and when he fell, swayed by the adversary, many in his service fell, and took on his visage in respect to their leader. [/QUOTE]
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