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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9049058" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Have you not heard about the blackouts, the whole "price the API at ridiculously high cost to drive out the far better competition" thing, the talking-out-of-both-sides-of-his-mouth from the CEO where he says he supports protest but also says he will exploit the moderator code of conduct to force reddits to re-open by <em>removing</em> mod teams that set their communities to Private mode until a mod team arrives that is willing to re-open it?</p><p></p><p>TL;DR: Steve Hoffman, Reddit's CEO, has been trying to ram through a price hike (up from the current, no-cost) for API usage on Reddit. That they wish to charge for this service is not a problem. However, the price they've set is completely prohibitive to <em>anyone</em> who might want to make a usable third-party app for reading Reddit; it's very clear that the goal is not to make money, but to drive out all competition, so everyone has to use the official Reddit app--AIUI, <em>none</em> of the existing third-party app developers can even remotely afford the new fees. </p><p></p><p>This is a problem for several reasons that others can explain better than me, but the gist is, (1) there are a ton of moderator tools that depend on these third-party apps which will go up in smoke on July 1 because it would cost the tool creators <em>literally millions of dollars</em> because they get billions of API calls per year; (2) the Reddit official app sucks, and has sucked for years, and hasn't gotten any better despite years of empty, broken promises; (3) the official Reddit app has <em>none</em> of the accessibility features that many disabled users rely on for access; and (4) Steve Hoffman has explicitly and repeatedly insulted the <em>all-volunteer</em> moderators (calling them "landed gentry" for example) and in other ways lied, misrepresented, or talked out of both sides of his mouth. For example, he explicitly said they <em>would not</em> force any subreddits out of Private mode ("going dark," as Private reddits are inaccessible to most people) because protest is vital to the spirit of Reddit....and then only a day later, turned around and started saying that Reddit would remove moderator teams that choose not to come out of Private mode and replace them until they <em>do</em> come out of private mode. And this <em>somehow</em> counts as supporting protest.</p><p></p><p>It's a PR disaster not dissimilar to the WotC/OGL thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9049058, member: 6790260"] Have you not heard about the blackouts, the whole "price the API at ridiculously high cost to drive out the far better competition" thing, the talking-out-of-both-sides-of-his-mouth from the CEO where he says he supports protest but also says he will exploit the moderator code of conduct to force reddits to re-open by [I]removing[/I] mod teams that set their communities to Private mode until a mod team arrives that is willing to re-open it? TL;DR: Steve Hoffman, Reddit's CEO, has been trying to ram through a price hike (up from the current, no-cost) for API usage on Reddit. That they wish to charge for this service is not a problem. However, the price they've set is completely prohibitive to [I]anyone[/I] who might want to make a usable third-party app for reading Reddit; it's very clear that the goal is not to make money, but to drive out all competition, so everyone has to use the official Reddit app--AIUI, [I]none[/I] of the existing third-party app developers can even remotely afford the new fees. This is a problem for several reasons that others can explain better than me, but the gist is, (1) there are a ton of moderator tools that depend on these third-party apps which will go up in smoke on July 1 because it would cost the tool creators [I]literally millions of dollars[/I] because they get billions of API calls per year; (2) the Reddit official app sucks, and has sucked for years, and hasn't gotten any better despite years of empty, broken promises; (3) the official Reddit app has [I]none[/I] of the accessibility features that many disabled users rely on for access; and (4) Steve Hoffman has explicitly and repeatedly insulted the [I]all-volunteer[/I] moderators (calling them "landed gentry" for example) and in other ways lied, misrepresented, or talked out of both sides of his mouth. For example, he explicitly said they [I]would not[/I] force any subreddits out of Private mode ("going dark," as Private reddits are inaccessible to most people) because protest is vital to the spirit of Reddit....and then only a day later, turned around and started saying that Reddit would remove moderator teams that choose not to come out of Private mode and replace them until they [I]do[/I] come out of private mode. And this [I]somehow[/I] counts as supporting protest. It's a PR disaster not dissimilar to the WotC/OGL thing. [/QUOTE]
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