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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4651150" data-attributes="member: 2067">It depends on the size of the concept and the design goals.That samurai could be a lot of different things, depending on their vision of it. It could be a build. It could be a path. It could just be a re-fluffed core class.A full class should be used for any archetypal, character-defining sort of role. In addition, classes sell books, and so there should be a tendancy toward making new classes over other things. They take up a lot of page count, but since they'll be one of the big selling points, that's probably OK. So Samurai, being a big archetype, should be its own class, and then should have its own builds (a charismatic "court member" samurai, and perhaps a tough dual-wielding "musashi" samurai), its own paragon paths (ronin, mounted knight, katana-fu-fencer, etc.), its own powers and features.Probably.But it could be other things. For instance, if the Coasties determine that the "Asia-themed-book" has space all rented out with the Ninja, and they can't spare the page count for its less-meme-worthy kin, they might demote it. Certainly as it sits, "rogue" is just "martial ninja" by another name anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>