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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 1390737" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Go to seanreynolds website. He give you a breakdown of how much it costs to make a book and why. His numbers are not accurate, but are close approximations.</p><p>The one who makes the most money in the publishing business? The distributor, especially in the comics/gaming industry, since Diamond has a virtual monopoly on supplying gaming stores.</p><p></p><p>Amazon is a strange monster, they do not have a distributor in the classic sense, and in a lot of ways they are a distributor. Same deal with WalMart. I do not know about the other stores mentioned.</p><p></p><p>Typical break up of book cost/profit on a book: Publisher 15 to 20%, Distributor 30 to 40%, retailer the rest. These percentages can be altered by how many distributors (middlemen) are in the "chain". Retailers (LGS) usually have a 30 to 40% profit margin. Remember that number is not actually profit. That is the amount they use to buy new stock, pay their employee's, pay their lease, and pay their personal bills (their house mortgage, electric bills, credit cards, car payments, insurance, etc..)</p><p></p><p>Realize their monthly lease for their business property probably runs them $5,000/month (more or less depending on property values of the area), plus 1 to 2 thousand dollars for electricity/water. Then there is their business tax, which eats up 5 ot 8% of their profit, again depending on where in the US they are located. Plus numerous other costs/expenses i haven't mentioned yet.</p><p></p><p>So LGS's are not ripping you off. They are charging you a fair price, and may give discounts if the volume of sales will make up for it. Otherwise they must charge you full retail just to make it worth running the business.</p><p></p><p>However, I still buy on-line because I buy so much gaming material. I cannot let a hobby cripple my families financial resources. So either I buy as cheap as I can, and buy lots more. Or I buy at my LGS and buy a lot less.</p><p></p><p>Buying a lot more keeps the various publishers in business. Buying less might keep the LGS in business. So I buy more, get more, and keep more publisher's in business. I do not need, or even like, my local LGS's. So I buy on-line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 1390737, member: 10177"] Go to seanreynolds website. He give you a breakdown of how much it costs to make a book and why. His numbers are not accurate, but are close approximations. The one who makes the most money in the publishing business? The distributor, especially in the comics/gaming industry, since Diamond has a virtual monopoly on supplying gaming stores. Amazon is a strange monster, they do not have a distributor in the classic sense, and in a lot of ways they are a distributor. Same deal with WalMart. I do not know about the other stores mentioned. Typical break up of book cost/profit on a book: Publisher 15 to 20%, Distributor 30 to 40%, retailer the rest. These percentages can be altered by how many distributors (middlemen) are in the "chain". Retailers (LGS) usually have a 30 to 40% profit margin. Remember that number is not actually profit. That is the amount they use to buy new stock, pay their employee's, pay their lease, and pay their personal bills (their house mortgage, electric bills, credit cards, car payments, insurance, etc..) Realize their monthly lease for their business property probably runs them $5,000/month (more or less depending on property values of the area), plus 1 to 2 thousand dollars for electricity/water. Then there is their business tax, which eats up 5 ot 8% of their profit, again depending on where in the US they are located. Plus numerous other costs/expenses i haven't mentioned yet. So LGS's are not ripping you off. They are charging you a fair price, and may give discounts if the volume of sales will make up for it. Otherwise they must charge you full retail just to make it worth running the business. However, I still buy on-line because I buy so much gaming material. I cannot let a hobby cripple my families financial resources. So either I buy as cheap as I can, and buy lots more. Or I buy at my LGS and buy a lot less. Buying a lot more keeps the various publishers in business. Buying less might keep the LGS in business. So I buy more, get more, and keep more publisher's in business. I do not need, or even like, my local LGS's. So I buy on-line. [/QUOTE]
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