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Where does optimizing end and min-maxing begin? And is min-maxing a bad thing?
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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 7056945" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>That's interesting. What you describe there is what I would call optimization, while min-maxing (in my mind) is something the opposite.</p><p></p><p>I've always seen min-maxing as maximizing one aspect of a character at the total expense of another. Like the OP's Strength Cleric stats.</p><p></p><p>I dislike (what I would call) min-maxing, not because it's optimized, but because it is usually gimped.</p><p></p><p>I once had a player who so incredibly jacked-up his Stealth at the expense of all else, that he hilariously forgot to give himself perception (at all). </p><p></p><p>So... he couldn't be seen by any monster, but couldn't see a thing. I forget the mechanical details, but it led to the rediculous situation of him "scouting" an enemy camp where he crawled under some bushes until he was right in the middle of the camp. He couldn't tell where he was, so he popped up...</p><p></p><p>Right in the middle of the enemy camp and very close to a startled Beholder. And all alone.</p><p></p><p>He made better rounded characters after that.</p><p></p><p>Sent from my LG-D852 using <a href="http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205" target="_blank">EN World mobile app</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 7056945, member: 59816"] That's interesting. What you describe there is what I would call optimization, while min-maxing (in my mind) is something the opposite. I've always seen min-maxing as maximizing one aspect of a character at the total expense of another. Like the OP's Strength Cleric stats. I dislike (what I would call) min-maxing, not because it's optimized, but because it is usually gimped. I once had a player who so incredibly jacked-up his Stealth at the expense of all else, that he hilariously forgot to give himself perception (at all). So... he couldn't be seen by any monster, but couldn't see a thing. I forget the mechanical details, but it led to the rediculous situation of him "scouting" an enemy camp where he crawled under some bushes until he was right in the middle of the camp. He couldn't tell where he was, so he popped up... Right in the middle of the enemy camp and very close to a startled Beholder. And all alone. He made better rounded characters after that. Sent from my LG-D852 using [URL=http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205]EN World mobile app[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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