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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7057494" data-attributes="member: 59057">The paladin/champion just wasted resources. Action surge and smite on an already quite dead monster is stupid... maybe his 8 intelligence justify that action.The rogue can do his 35 damage all day long...The only way he can really feel bad is if everytime the paladin uses that combo a long rest is done.Otherwise, if the paladin just uses that combination on an enemy leader, I guess noone would complain.Even the flame sgrike should at least softened up a few differen targets... otherwise the cleric wasted resources.And the 3e example is also not as bad as it may seem. After the witch did 50 damage, the fireball of the sorcerer kills even on a successful saving throw. And if you do 50% of the damage with an off discipline compared to someone specialized in that it seems not so bad.Actually I would worry if a specialized character is not substantially better than a non spezialized one. That actually is a bigger problem in 3e. A cleric or druid that can deal as much damage with spells as the sorcerer and fight better than the fighter....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 7057494, member: 59057"] The paladin/champion just wasted resources. Action surge and smite on an already quite dead monster is stupid... maybe his 8 intelligence justify that action. The rogue can do his 35 damage all day long... The only way he can really feel bad is if everytime the paladin uses that combo a long rest is done. Otherwise, if the paladin just uses that combination on an enemy leader, I guess noone would complain. Even the flame sgrike should at least softened up a few differen targets... otherwise the cleric wasted resources. And the 3e example is also not as bad as it may seem. After the witch did 50 damage, the fireball of the sorcerer kills even on a successful saving throw. And if you do 50% of the damage with an off discipline compared to someone specialized in that it seems not so bad. Actually I would worry if a specialized character is not substantially better than a non spezialized one. That actually is a bigger problem in 3e. A cleric or druid that can deal as much damage with spells as the sorcerer and fight better than the fighter.... [/QUOTE]

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