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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7060350" data-attributes="member: 6785785">It was a typo. It should have read &quot;better ranged to hit&quot; meaning a better ranged to hit bonus. Sorry that was unclear. As for judging the two characters on one number, I don't think that's what I did. I provided several other factors beyond their ranged to hit bonus that played a part in things. Nor was I looking to get upset....far from it. We play D&amp;D every other Friday, and I look forward to it a great deal. Although at the time, I will admit that Pathfinder's rampant bloat was starting to irk me. So that was certainly a factor...but not so much so that I was looking to get upset.Nor was I raving about optimizers in my post. Go back and re-read it if you need to. I think that even if you disagree with the things I am saying, you'll notice on a re-read that it is far from raving. As I said a few times already, I don't really mind min-maxing....I expect it to some extent. However, saying that it can never ever ever contribute to a problem at he table would be a silly statement. So for the sake of discussion, I offered what I think is a reasonable example of a time where min-maxing negatively impacted play. It was not the sole factor, for sure, but it was a big part of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7060350, member: 6785785"] It was a typo. It should have read "better ranged to hit" meaning a better ranged to hit bonus. Sorry that was unclear. As for judging the two characters on one number, I don't think that's what I did. I provided several other factors beyond their ranged to hit bonus that played a part in things. Nor was I looking to get upset....far from it. We play D&D every other Friday, and I look forward to it a great deal. Although at the time, I will admit that Pathfinder's rampant bloat was starting to irk me. So that was certainly a factor...but not so much so that I was looking to get upset. Nor was I raving about optimizers in my post. Go back and re-read it if you need to. I think that even if you disagree with the things I am saying, you'll notice on a re-read that it is far from raving. As I said a few times already, I don't really mind min-maxing....I expect it to some extent. However, saying that it can never ever ever contribute to a problem at he table would be a silly statement. So for the sake of discussion, I offered what I think is a reasonable example of a time where min-maxing negatively impacted play. It was not the sole factor, for sure, but it was a big part of it. [/QUOTE]

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