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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7070114" data-attributes="member: 22779">[MENTION=6799649]Arial Black[/MENTION] - there's a couple of issues with your analysis.1.&nbsp; Point buy ONLY applies to PC's.&nbsp; There's no &quot;every wizard has a 16 Int&quot; because that's flat out false.&nbsp; NPC's DO NO use PC rules in 5e.&nbsp; Trying to extrapolate to the general population from the PHB is not applicable.&nbsp; The Monster Manual flat out contradicts this idea that PC and NPC's are created equal.2.&nbsp; I'm not seeing where point buy or die rolling encourages min-maxing to any greater or lesser degree.&nbsp; In a die rolled character, you place your highest score in whatever stat best suits your character.&nbsp; Second highest in second place and so on until you drop your lowest die roll in your dump stat.&nbsp; That's identical to what you do with point buy.&nbsp; The thing is, die rolling is by far more favorable to min-maxers.&nbsp; 4d6 drop the lowest will almost always result in a higher point buy value than what you would get&nbsp; from point buy.&nbsp; AND, additionally, if your die rolled character is significantly lower than the point buy value, most DM's will allow you to do it over, while, on the other hand, virtually no DM will force you to reroll a character that is significantly higher value than point buy.So, there is virtually no down side to die rolling.&nbsp; At worst, you might be a point or two lower than point buy, and, most of the time, you will be significantly higher.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7070114, member: 22779"] [MENTION=6799649]Arial Black[/MENTION] - there's a couple of issues with your analysis. 1. Point buy ONLY applies to PC's. There's no "every wizard has a 16 Int" because that's flat out false. NPC's DO NO use PC rules in 5e. Trying to extrapolate to the general population from the PHB is not applicable. The Monster Manual flat out contradicts this idea that PC and NPC's are created equal. 2. I'm not seeing where point buy or die rolling encourages min-maxing to any greater or lesser degree. In a die rolled character, you place your highest score in whatever stat best suits your character. Second highest in second place and so on until you drop your lowest die roll in your dump stat. That's identical to what you do with point buy. The thing is, die rolling is by far more favorable to min-maxers. 4d6 drop the lowest will almost always result in a higher point buy value than what you would get from point buy. AND, additionally, if your die rolled character is significantly lower than the point buy value, most DM's will allow you to do it over, while, on the other hand, virtually no DM will force you to reroll a character that is significantly higher value than point buy. So, there is virtually no down side to die rolling. At worst, you might be a point or two lower than point buy, and, most of the time, you will be significantly higher. [/QUOTE]

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