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Where does optimizing end and min-maxing begin? And is min-maxing a bad thing?
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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7075656" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>First of all, it's my PC not yours. Whether it 'interests' <em>you</em> is of minor concern.</p><p></p><p>Second, point-buy does not force me to choose between playing (because two 18s) and not playing. Point-buy <strong>allows</strong> me to make that choice, to <em>choose</em> two 18s that I never rolled and have four dump stats to 'pay' for it. <em>This is <strong>enabled</strong> by point-buy!</em></p><p></p><p>Remember, this thread is <strong>not</strong> 'which stat generation system is better', but which lends itself to the most heinous min-maxing! Point-buy encourages min-maxing precisely because it allows you min-max more thoroughly than other systems. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't have to play 16/16/12/12/8/7, because <strong>point-buy</strong> allows me to get an objectlvely better and more min-maxed 18/18/8/7/7/7 and I'd rather play with two 18s than two 16s, and the greater number of dump stats doesn't change my mind. Point-buy allows this <em>every single time</em> with no chance of 'failure'. With rolling, you get what you get and after you assign the scores you cannot further reduce your low scores in order to increase your high scores; it doesn't allow you to min-max that way. Point-buy does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 7075656, member: 6799649"] First of all, it's my PC not yours. Whether it 'interests' [i]you[/i] is of minor concern. Second, point-buy does not force me to choose between playing (because two 18s) and not playing. Point-buy [b]allows[/b] me to make that choice, to [i]choose[/i] two 18s that I never rolled and have four dump stats to 'pay' for it. [i]This is [b]enabled[/b] by point-buy![/i] Remember, this thread is [b]not[/b] 'which stat generation system is better', but which lends itself to the most heinous min-maxing! Point-buy encourages min-maxing precisely because it allows you min-max more thoroughly than other systems. I don't have to play 16/16/12/12/8/7, because [b]point-buy[/b] allows me to get an objectlvely better and more min-maxed 18/18/8/7/7/7 and I'd rather play with two 18s than two 16s, and the greater number of dump stats doesn't change my mind. Point-buy allows this [i]every single time[/i] with no chance of 'failure'. With rolling, you get what you get and after you assign the scores you cannot further reduce your low scores in order to increase your high scores; it doesn't allow you to min-max that way. Point-buy does. [/QUOTE]
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