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Where does optimizing end and min-maxing begin? And is min-maxing a bad thing?
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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7077799" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p><em>You</em> play your character that way, perhaps, and that is fine of course. However, I certainly don't, nor does most of my group. Nor do I DM in a way that is amenable to that style of play. </p><p></p><p>If you don't have physical skills, investigative/research/Lore skills, and social skills, or at least 2 of 3, you're going to miss them, at my table, and challenges will be harder for the whole group. </p><p></p><p>So, yeah. Boosting 3 8s to 10s instead of a couple 15s to 16s is a better choice at my tables. Pretty much always. But also, even when I just tell a new player that the game doesn't need them to have maxed scores, as part of explaining how point buy works, they never min/max. At least, so far. In fact, once there is a reminder that the 16 (or in 4e, 18 or 20), is not necessary, the nature of point buy seems to discourage min maxing, because the max costs so much, and those points can be used to be competent at more skills and saves/defenses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7077799, member: 6704184"] [i]You[/i] play your character that way, perhaps, and that is fine of course. However, I certainly don't, nor does most of my group. Nor do I DM in a way that is amenable to that style of play. If you don't have physical skills, investigative/research/Lore skills, and social skills, or at least 2 of 3, you're going to miss them, at my table, and challenges will be harder for the whole group. So, yeah. Boosting 3 8s to 10s instead of a couple 15s to 16s is a better choice at my tables. Pretty much always. But also, even when I just tell a new player that the game doesn't need them to have maxed scores, as part of explaining how point buy works, they never min/max. At least, so far. In fact, once there is a reminder that the 16 (or in 4e, 18 or 20), is not necessary, the nature of point buy seems to discourage min maxing, because the max costs so much, and those points can be used to be competent at more skills and saves/defenses. [/QUOTE]
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