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<blockquote data-quote="Azgulor" data-source="post: 6387535" data-attributes="member: 14291">Pathfinder, as RPG, has been out for 5 years as of this past August.&nbsp; People were claiming when it launched that the system was &quot;done&quot; from a design standpoint.&nbsp; Five years later, we've got archetypes, new classes that weren't earlier edition re-treads, mythic rules, kingdom-building rules, downtime rules, additional bestiaries that aren't getting stale, Sci-fantasy rules, etc.&nbsp; Paizo stated a while back that they wanted to get the &quot;main&quot; books out that would facilitate telling the stories that they hoped to tell as early as possible, thus the APG.&nbsp; Paizo wants to explore other areas of fantasy, &quot;esoteric&quot; or not.PF Unchanged &amp; Occult Adventures are a continuation of that theme.&nbsp; I'm looking forward to it.&nbsp; I'm sure at some point, it'll be time for a PF 2nd edition, but I expect it to be a 2nd edition like the rest of the universe does - a refined, tighter edition rather than the D&amp;D &quot;nuke from orbit and rebuild&quot; approach.&nbsp; I'm sick of edition treadmills.I didn't know I wanted Ultimate Campaign until it was announced and then it was a must-have.&nbsp; I've always hated Epic rules &amp; play assumptions but found myself intrigued by Mythic.&nbsp; You, get the idea.Paizo continues to open up new design space within the existing system.&nbsp; May that continue for many years.Oh, and Eric Mona has cited for multiple years in a row that PFRPG core rule book sales continue to rise each year.&nbsp; What Paizo needs to avoid (IMO) is trying to be WotC and follow the D&amp;D edition treadmill model.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Azgulor, post: 6387535, member: 14291"] Pathfinder, as RPG, has been out for 5 years as of this past August. People were claiming when it launched that the system was "done" from a design standpoint. Five years later, we've got archetypes, new classes that weren't earlier edition re-treads, mythic rules, kingdom-building rules, downtime rules, additional bestiaries that aren't getting stale, Sci-fantasy rules, etc. Paizo stated a while back that they wanted to get the "main" books out that would facilitate telling the stories that they hoped to tell as early as possible, thus the APG. Paizo wants to explore other areas of fantasy, "esoteric" or not. PF Unchanged & Occult Adventures are a continuation of that theme. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sure at some point, it'll be time for a PF 2nd edition, but I expect it to be a 2nd edition like the rest of the universe does - a refined, tighter edition rather than the D&D "nuke from orbit and rebuild" approach. I'm sick of edition treadmills. I didn't know I wanted Ultimate Campaign until it was announced and then it was a must-have. I've always hated Epic rules & play assumptions but found myself intrigued by Mythic. You, get the idea. Paizo continues to open up new design space within the existing system. May that continue for many years. Oh, and Eric Mona has cited for multiple years in a row that PFRPG core rule book sales continue to rise each year. What Paizo needs to avoid (IMO) is trying to be WotC and follow the D&D edition treadmill model. [/QUOTE]

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