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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 4586314" data-attributes="member: 7006">I dunno... it seems pretty simple to me.&nbsp; 1E magic item were more &quot;mysterious&quot; because we had never seen them before.In 1982... &quot;Bracers Of Ogre Power raises my strength to 18/00?!?&nbsp; What?!?&nbsp; Are you kidding me?!?&nbsp; That's the greatest thing eve-- wait what-- Girdle of Hill Giant Strength raises my strength to 19?!?&nbsp; Oh my freakin' god!!!&quot;.But now... we've had 30 years knowing what Bracers of Ogre Power do.&nbsp; So of course the mystery is gone.&nbsp; And when your DM says &quot;you find a pair of bracers that infuse you with the power of the ogre...&quot;, we're all ho-hum.And let's be honest here... even if all of you decrying 4E magic item design were to suddenly start playing 1E campaigns again... how many times would a DM hand you a supposedly &quot;mysterious&quot; magic item, only for you to discover that you already know what it was because you've had the rules for them for 30 years?You are all looking for a nostalgia that you cannot get back, because you know Dungeons &amp; Dragons.&nbsp; And it doesn't matter if you play 1E or 2E or 3E or 4E or Basic or Rules Cyclopedia or any of that stuff... because the &quot;magic&quot; of the game is gone.&nbsp; You already know everything.You want to truly be surprised and filled with magic and wonder about an RPG again?&nbsp; Get your DM to pick up a game that none of you have ever played or even read... and have him run it for you.&nbsp; And make sure none of you players read the rules/setting/game.&nbsp; Then (and only then) will you have this nostaglic &quot;magic and wonder&quot; that you seem to crave.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 4586314, member: 7006"] I dunno... it seems pretty simple to me. 1E magic item were more "mysterious" because [I]we had never seen them before[/I]. In 1982... "Bracers Of Ogre Power raises my strength to 18/00?!? What?!? Are you kidding me?!? That's the greatest thing eve-- wait what-- Girdle of Hill Giant Strength raises my strength to [B]19[/B]?!? Oh my freakin' god!!!". But now... we've had 30 years knowing what Bracers of Ogre Power do. So [I]of course[/I] the mystery is gone. And when your DM says "you find a pair of bracers that infuse you with the power of the ogre...", we're all [I]ho-hum[/I]. And let's be honest here... [I]even if[/I] all of you decrying 4E magic item design were to suddenly start playing 1E campaigns again... how many times would a DM hand you a supposedly "mysterious" magic item, only for you to discover that you already know what it was [I]because you've had the rules for them for 30 years[/I]? You are all looking for a nostalgia that you cannot get back, because you know Dungeons & Dragons. And it doesn't matter if you play 1E or 2E or 3E or 4E or Basic or Rules Cyclopedia or any of that stuff... because the "magic" of the game is gone. [B]You already know everything[/B]. You want to truly be surprised and filled with magic and wonder about an RPG again? Get your DM to pick up a game that none of you have ever played or even read... and have him run it for you. And make sure none of you players read the rules/setting/game. Then (and only then) will you have this nostaglic "magic and wonder" that you seem to crave. [/QUOTE]

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