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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4814578" data-attributes="member: 18280">It is certainly true that Dragon Magazine (and Dungeon) together have a far greater page count than, say, the DMG, and are therefore proportionally represented.&nbsp; What I find interesting is the leap from this to the idea that one needed to therefore have a complete set of Dragons to have interesting items available, or that, if the second largest source of interesting items is modules, somehow &quot;guess what you find in modules?&nbsp; Hoards, and hoards of +1 swords.&quot;It should also be noted, obviously, that the purpose of the EM was to make all of these items availble whether or not you had Dragon 58.....I.e., the existence of the EM itself is a counter to the argument that these items were not all available to the DM, at least in 2e.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This sort of reasoning used as a denial of others experiences leads to conclusions that are no more reliable than myth.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4814578, member: 18280"] It is certainly true that Dragon Magazine (and Dungeon) together have a far greater page count than, say, the DMG, and are therefore proportionally represented. What I find interesting is the leap from this to the idea that one needed to therefore have a complete set of Dragons to have interesting items available, or that, if the second largest source of interesting items is modules, somehow "guess what you find in modules? Hoards, and hoards of +1 swords." It should also be noted, obviously, that the purpose of the EM was to make all of these items availble whether or not you had Dragon 58.....I.e., the existence of the EM itself is a counter to the argument that these items were not all available to the DM, at least in 2e. :) This sort of reasoning used as a denial of others experiences leads to conclusions that are no more reliable than myth. RC [/QUOTE]

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