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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5226926" data-attributes="member: 6957">Hmmm, maybe it is just that you never had any magic. Goodness know I still find some in the game, some thirty four years later. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The players may know that they are dealing with a sea hag and some merrows, or maybe they don't. The magic moment when the panic sets in as a character is pulled under water is still the same - the players yelling at the paladin to forget his damned armor and get stuck in already. The barbarian raging as he pulls the sorcerer out of a merrow's claws before he drowns. The paladin finally getting into the damned water and smiting the hag!I find that the magic happens more with the kids than it does with their parents, but there are still shining moments, even with the grownups, when the players are totally involved in the game.The Auld Grump*EDIT* And just because....[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iHqVyeluPw"]YouTube- The Muppet Show - We Must Believe in Magic[/ame]</blockquote>