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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 3213972" data-attributes="member: 926">Thats what I was thinking when I first read this, too.Hmmm, not really something I've encountered.  Usually the people I game with and I like playing heroic types.  Sometimes someone will play a shady character, and sometimes an outright villain, and it's a nice change of  pace every once in a while, but no one does it as a matter of course.  Heck, every so often we've had specifically Evil games, where everyone is encouraged to make Evil characters (or at least shady Neutral ones) and they tend to be quite fun (when we manage to form a solid group with a common goal and not kill each other <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Once during one such game the characters just didn't get along together and we actually broke out into a fight right after leaving the building where we were assigned a mission by our villainous benefactor!  Some of our most memorable games have been with Evil characters and we still talk about them they were so fun!), but no one makes Evil characters as a habit.      I don't understand the idea that all heroic characters are somehow boring vanilla characters.  Is Spider-Man boring?  Batman?!  I certainly don't think so.  Sees like a very limited perspective to me.  Hopefully the guy isn't just looking for an excuse to be a jerk "in character" to the other characters (and players.)      Next tie he says that Good Guys are boring and vanilla, ask him his opinion of Batman.  I'd be interested in seeing what he says.  Yes, there is a reason that actors say that it's more fun to play the Bad Guys, but doing it all the time is a bit much.I agree with you that maybe the best thing is to just tell him to sit out this campaign if he doesn't want to fit in with the heroic theme like everyone else.  You don't want to have to force him to play a "boring" character, after all.Or maybe suggest to him that he plays a reformed villain.  maybe he could use the Tiamat character, but now he has seen the error of his ways and is seeking to redeem himself, but hasn't quite fully reached the light?  A conflicted former villain seeking to redeem himself through good acts could hardly be called boring or vanilla.  If he does, indeed, have potential like you said, then hopefully you can help him to achieve that potential, and realize that playing Good characters is just as much fun as Evil ones.</blockquote>

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