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<blockquote data-quote="Scott DeWar" data-source="post: 6255696" data-attributes="member: 49929"><p>My 2 cents here: As has been mentioned, there is ice on the moon, and gravity is only 1/6 of terra, sol 3, though not considered 'micro gravity'.</p><p></p><p>My questions are,</p><p>1. why not use *ahem* natural 'bio material' for farming in the [several times i think] mentioned greenhouses. I refer to human waste. you can possibly expose it to the extremely powerful UV light to kill stuff like E. Coli, then mix it with other compost that has starter composting enzymes. I am thinking much the same as eating yougert after taking heavy antibiotics to restart your digestive system, but in this case the 'yogurt ' is what is found in a compost bin. This will also produce some heat for the community. IIRC, the sun's energy is greatly lessened diffusing due to a greatly reduced atmosphere, there by giving a greater energy potential on the moon[?]. CO2 is being worked on in 2 directions. one is breaking the carbon/oxygen bond to recover the O2 and give carbon for soil base purposes. The other is the long time favorite of plants doing the converting, my favorite is Corn stalks.</p><p></p><p>2. This pertains to long term human 'cartage' to mars. I have heard of the idea of putting people in induced comas to reduce O2 and food use. Very old theory, I know. I just want to mention that 6 weeks of induced coma has left me so weak [still] 2 years later that I just can't see the viability of induced coma transfer. I remember watching a show about the ISS that an American astronaut that was so weak he could barely lift his arm to wave. It took a couple of months of PT to get him to a decent level of strength afterward. I have been in the ' learning to walk again' category of need and 2 years later I am still recovering. </p><p></p><p>Now granted my case is a bit worse as I was deathly ill for the time of my coma. What I would like to know is, </p><p>A) is there a viable alternative to a 'sleeping worker' transport system? </p><p></p><p>B) Also, even though the moon is not micro grav, wouldn't it be a viable possibility to expect the same problems as micro grav, just taking longer to occur?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott DeWar, post: 6255696, member: 49929"] My 2 cents here: As has been mentioned, there is ice on the moon, and gravity is only 1/6 of terra, sol 3, though not considered 'micro gravity'. My questions are, 1. why not use *ahem* natural 'bio material' for farming in the [several times i think] mentioned greenhouses. I refer to human waste. you can possibly expose it to the extremely powerful UV light to kill stuff like E. Coli, then mix it with other compost that has starter composting enzymes. I am thinking much the same as eating yougert after taking heavy antibiotics to restart your digestive system, but in this case the 'yogurt ' is what is found in a compost bin. This will also produce some heat for the community. IIRC, the sun's energy is greatly lessened diffusing due to a greatly reduced atmosphere, there by giving a greater energy potential on the moon[?]. CO2 is being worked on in 2 directions. one is breaking the carbon/oxygen bond to recover the O2 and give carbon for soil base purposes. The other is the long time favorite of plants doing the converting, my favorite is Corn stalks. 2. This pertains to long term human 'cartage' to mars. I have heard of the idea of putting people in induced comas to reduce O2 and food use. Very old theory, I know. I just want to mention that 6 weeks of induced coma has left me so weak [still] 2 years later that I just can't see the viability of induced coma transfer. I remember watching a show about the ISS that an American astronaut that was so weak he could barely lift his arm to wave. It took a couple of months of PT to get him to a decent level of strength afterward. I have been in the ' learning to walk again' category of need and 2 years later I am still recovering. Now granted my case is a bit worse as I was deathly ill for the time of my coma. What I would like to know is, A) is there a viable alternative to a 'sleeping worker' transport system? B) Also, even though the moon is not micro grav, wouldn't it be a viable possibility to expect the same problems as micro grav, just taking longer to occur? [/QUOTE]
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