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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1762149" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>No, it's really not. Metamagic is extremely expensive, in terms of slot preparation, and memorization casters find it less useful than spontaneous casters. Feat rods apply equally to both types of caster, so they're a non-issue. </p><p></p><p>Consider this: let's say we have a wizard and a sorceror. Both can cast fireball. The wizard needs to decide, at the start of the day, whether or not he'll need a superpowerful fireball or not. He chooses to Maximize and Empower his fireball, so that it does 90 points of damage. He sacrifices <u>an eighth level slot</u> for the privelege. Want to do it twice? That's another eighth level slot. Goobye Horrid Wilting. See ya later, Mind Blank. Don't forget to write, Protection from Spells.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, the sorceror wakes up late. He takes a quick shower, meets the party at the dungeon, and decides to cast a fireball. He maximizes and empowers it, and takes a full round action to cast it. He still has his eighth level slots. Then he does it again. AND AGAIN. And then he casts a Horrid Wilting...because he still has four or five of 'em left, if he wants.</p><p></p><p>The feat rods benefit sorcerors less, it's true...but they still get the benefit from a rod if they lack the feat. It just replicates their existing talent. And frankly, the prices for the rods are spot-on. Sorcerors also benefit just as much from a rod that lets them metamagic higher level spells.</p><p></p><p>A Wizard gets: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Better Spell Selection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Faster Spell Progression</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More Feats (Bonus Metamagic)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More Expensive Metamagic</li> </ul><p></p><p>A Sorceror gets:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More Spell Slots</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More Tactical Flexibility</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cheaper Metamagic Use</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Smaller Spell Selection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Slower Spell Progression</li> </ul><p></p><p>In short, the Sorceror's flexibility in the field is valuable enough to warrant the additional costs he pays elsewhere, and the wizard's use of metamagic is stymied traditionally to his need for preparation and 'hidden' cost of metamagic use. Metamagic Feat Rods benefit both classes, although wizards get a better deal out of it, but they are prohibitively expensive. Yes, the 'full-round' casting time means that one metamagic feat is useless to a sorceror and that metamagic has a cost to spontaneous casters...but the metamagic use by spontaneous casters is still a bargain, even at that price. Unearthed Arcana contains variant rules for eliminating the classes, racial prestige classes and for permanent dual-classing...but they don't really effect the core rules any more than an alternate system does. They're just rules variants. </p><p></p><p>So generally speaking, No, I don't see anything wrong with where metamagic's going. It's still an expensive cost to use, and rarely of much use until around fifth level. Wizards are jealous of their higher slots, and will rarely metamagic more than one or two 'specials' (such as the maximized empowered sonic fireball or silent dispel magic and so on).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1762149, member: 151"] No, it's really not. Metamagic is extremely expensive, in terms of slot preparation, and memorization casters find it less useful than spontaneous casters. Feat rods apply equally to both types of caster, so they're a non-issue. Consider this: let's say we have a wizard and a sorceror. Both can cast fireball. The wizard needs to decide, at the start of the day, whether or not he'll need a superpowerful fireball or not. He chooses to Maximize and Empower his fireball, so that it does 90 points of damage. He sacrifices [u]an eighth level slot[/u] for the privelege. Want to do it twice? That's another eighth level slot. Goobye Horrid Wilting. See ya later, Mind Blank. Don't forget to write, Protection from Spells. Meanwhile, the sorceror wakes up late. He takes a quick shower, meets the party at the dungeon, and decides to cast a fireball. He maximizes and empowers it, and takes a full round action to cast it. He still has his eighth level slots. Then he does it again. AND AGAIN. And then he casts a Horrid Wilting...because he still has four or five of 'em left, if he wants. The feat rods benefit sorcerors less, it's true...but they still get the benefit from a rod if they lack the feat. It just replicates their existing talent. And frankly, the prices for the rods are spot-on. Sorcerors also benefit just as much from a rod that lets them metamagic higher level spells. A Wizard gets: [list] [*]Better Spell Selection [*]Faster Spell Progression [*]More Feats (Bonus Metamagic) [*]More Expensive Metamagic [/list] A Sorceror gets: [list] [*]More Spell Slots [*]More Tactical Flexibility [*]Cheaper Metamagic Use [*]Smaller Spell Selection [*]Slower Spell Progression [/list] In short, the Sorceror's flexibility in the field is valuable enough to warrant the additional costs he pays elsewhere, and the wizard's use of metamagic is stymied traditionally to his need for preparation and 'hidden' cost of metamagic use. Metamagic Feat Rods benefit both classes, although wizards get a better deal out of it, but they are prohibitively expensive. Yes, the 'full-round' casting time means that one metamagic feat is useless to a sorceror and that metamagic has a cost to spontaneous casters...but the metamagic use by spontaneous casters is still a bargain, even at that price. Unearthed Arcana contains variant rules for eliminating the classes, racial prestige classes and for permanent dual-classing...but they don't really effect the core rules any more than an alternate system does. They're just rules variants. So generally speaking, No, I don't see anything wrong with where metamagic's going. It's still an expensive cost to use, and rarely of much use until around fifth level. Wizards are jealous of their higher slots, and will rarely metamagic more than one or two 'specials' (such as the maximized empowered sonic fireball or silent dispel magic and so on). [/QUOTE]
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