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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1762325" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>You're right. I'm completely wrong, there. </p><p>Per the SRD: "<em>As with other spellcasters, the improved spell uses up a higher-level spell slot.</em>"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right...they clarified that in 3.5, and I never noticed. Again from the SRD: "<em>An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus one-half the normally rolled result."</em></p><p></p><p>So things aren't quite as sweet for the Sorceror (and Bard, by extension) as I thought. They are, however, still quite comfy. The advantage of being able to cast spontaneously is still huge...but it does tend to marginalize the caster.</p><p>I can see how the wording can be interepeted as vague. But I wonder that if they meant for them to be only for sorcerors or preparation, why they didn't call that out specifically. In particular, I keep coming back to this line: "<em>All the rods described here are use-activated (but casting spells in a threatened area still draws an attack of opportunity). </em>" Yes, that could be purely for the benefit of sorcerors and bards...but I tend to doubt it...especially since we all agree that wizards benefit more from these items than they do, and would be the first people to shell out the ducats for them.</p><p></p><p>As for the scroll making capacity of wizards...it's a mixed bag. They loose XP for the privelege, and a sorceror can spend his money to match it. In practice, most wizards I know would rather spend the money than the time and XP. It's a benefit, but I don't think it's a big one, frankly. ANd there's nothing stopping the sorceror from taking those feats...he just doesn't get them as quickly or readily as the sorceror. And let's not forget the financial burden the wizard carries....he has to scribe all of his spells into his spellbook. It costs money to do that, and the wizard has an additional vulnerabilty from it. That helps balance the economics of the feat rods, too.</p><p></p><p>All in all, I can definitely see wiggle room there, but I'm not seeing metamagic spiralling. I do think that Complete Divine wasn't terribly good, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1762325, member: 151"] You're right. I'm completely wrong, there. Per the SRD: "[I]As with other spellcasters, the improved spell uses up a higher-level spell slot.[/I]" You're right...they clarified that in 3.5, and I never noticed. Again from the SRD: "[I]An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus one-half the normally rolled result."[/I] So things aren't quite as sweet for the Sorceror (and Bard, by extension) as I thought. They are, however, still quite comfy. The advantage of being able to cast spontaneously is still huge...but it does tend to marginalize the caster. I can see how the wording can be interepeted as vague. But I wonder that if they meant for them to be only for sorcerors or preparation, why they didn't call that out specifically. In particular, I keep coming back to this line: "[I]All the rods described here are use-activated (but casting spells in a threatened area still draws an attack of opportunity). [/I]" Yes, that could be purely for the benefit of sorcerors and bards...but I tend to doubt it...especially since we all agree that wizards benefit more from these items than they do, and would be the first people to shell out the ducats for them. As for the scroll making capacity of wizards...it's a mixed bag. They loose XP for the privelege, and a sorceror can spend his money to match it. In practice, most wizards I know would rather spend the money than the time and XP. It's a benefit, but I don't think it's a big one, frankly. ANd there's nothing stopping the sorceror from taking those feats...he just doesn't get them as quickly or readily as the sorceror. And let's not forget the financial burden the wizard carries....he has to scribe all of his spells into his spellbook. It costs money to do that, and the wizard has an additional vulnerabilty from it. That helps balance the economics of the feat rods, too. All in all, I can definitely see wiggle room there, but I'm not seeing metamagic spiralling. I do think that Complete Divine wasn't terribly good, though. [/QUOTE]
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