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<blockquote data-quote="Doctor Futurity" data-source="post: 7681491" data-attributes="member: 10738"><p>Hmmm.....since I was going for "bad joke" I feel akward trying to defend my supposition that bronies = some level of squick so I will only say, "I have no defense, it was one of those jokes that depends on nervous laughter."</p><p></p><p>Now, if you want to talk about gender stereotyping in general, I agree some of that goes on. But bronies are more than just a case of people questioning whether men have a right to enjoy a tale of magical ponies....there are, ah, elements of the culture which have sort of perverted the purity of it all and probably overshadow what I am sure is an entirely pristine and extremely G-rated enjoyment of the Little Pony genre. A Huffington Post example is right <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/16/brony-sex-toys_n_4605567.html" target="_blank">here</a>, and also <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/21/inflatable-lifesize-my-li_n_6511712.html" target="_blank">here</a>. Oh and also <a href="http://www.dailydot.com/society/my-little-pony-brony-sex-toy/" target="_blank">here</a>. I dont even....I mean....</p><p></p><p>As always, the internet is why we can't have nice things.....and the problem with any process of stereotyping like this is that we engender some ingrained expectations. Girls enjoy MLP because it might be an empowering show, filled with magic ponies that are interesting to watch. Boys might also enjoy it for that reason and that's fine (my kid watched it, for example). However, and lets faced it: if my kid hits puberty and starts sexualizing ponies, then regardless of whether or not his sexual preferences are okay or not from a general standard it will be very hard for me, as a parent, to not feel like I <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ed up somewhere. Being gay is something that just happens; it's genetic, or a byproduct of such. But being a bronie with a sexual attraction to ponies? That's a fetish conditioning process, and suggests some weird implications for how and why the show appeals to adult men....and their upbringing. </p><p></p><p>For context: I'm a 44 year old father with a child about to turn 4. I do have expectations for my child, but I admit I find it interesting that if my kid comes to me when he is 18 and says "I'm gay" I will be okay with that, but if I find he's got a bronie sex doll in his closet I will be very disappointed in myself as a father. Take that as you will.....but I guess I know where my hard bias hits its wall on stuff like this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: and reading comments from fathers with daughters only makes me wince even more at the bronie concept. I mean...why can't girls have nice things, too? Why do adult men have to slide in and make this all....disgusting?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doctor Futurity, post: 7681491, member: 10738"] Hmmm.....since I was going for "bad joke" I feel akward trying to defend my supposition that bronies = some level of squick so I will only say, "I have no defense, it was one of those jokes that depends on nervous laughter." Now, if you want to talk about gender stereotyping in general, I agree some of that goes on. But bronies are more than just a case of people questioning whether men have a right to enjoy a tale of magical ponies....there are, ah, elements of the culture which have sort of perverted the purity of it all and probably overshadow what I am sure is an entirely pristine and extremely G-rated enjoyment of the Little Pony genre. A Huffington Post example is right [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/16/brony-sex-toys_n_4605567.html"]here[/URL], and also [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/21/inflatable-lifesize-my-li_n_6511712.html"]here[/URL]. Oh and also [URL="http://www.dailydot.com/society/my-little-pony-brony-sex-toy/"]here[/URL]. I dont even....I mean.... As always, the internet is why we can't have nice things.....and the problem with any process of stereotyping like this is that we engender some ingrained expectations. Girls enjoy MLP because it might be an empowering show, filled with magic ponies that are interesting to watch. Boys might also enjoy it for that reason and that's fine (my kid watched it, for example). However, and lets faced it: if my kid hits puberty and starts sexualizing ponies, then regardless of whether or not his sexual preferences are okay or not from a general standard it will be very hard for me, as a parent, to not feel like I :):):):)ed up somewhere. Being gay is something that just happens; it's genetic, or a byproduct of such. But being a bronie with a sexual attraction to ponies? That's a fetish conditioning process, and suggests some weird implications for how and why the show appeals to adult men....and their upbringing. For context: I'm a 44 year old father with a child about to turn 4. I do have expectations for my child, but I admit I find it interesting that if my kid comes to me when he is 18 and says "I'm gay" I will be okay with that, but if I find he's got a bronie sex doll in his closet I will be very disappointed in myself as a father. Take that as you will.....but I guess I know where my hard bias hits its wall on stuff like this. EDIT: and reading comments from fathers with daughters only makes me wince even more at the bronie concept. I mean...why can't girls have nice things, too? Why do adult men have to slide in and make this all....disgusting? [/QUOTE]
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