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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 4421405" data-attributes="member: 5100">At first blush (i.e. I reserve the right to change my mind on further thought), I have to agree with Wulf on much of what he said.  One thing I'm definitely wanting to get away from with 3e is the game away from the table.  That's why 4e appeals to me.On the other hand, I'm the guy in my group that enjoys just sitting down and making up characters.  That's pretty much the reason I started primarily DMing 20 years ago.  I used to sit around and spend 12+ hours just building a PC (not NPC) for Shadowrun or Hero.  Still, there is something about the way the 3e game away from the table works that frustrates me, and has for years.  It's not just the prep work.It may be because I prefer monster-low campaigns that focus on PC races, and those are what are more difficult to prep in 3e.  I'm quite certain that a critter-based campaign would be a lot easier to deal with.Honestly, though, the only reason I'd ever consider a class/level based system is ease of use.  Seriously.  If you're planning on spending a good amount of time away from the table running numbers, just call it a day and use a system with better suited to it, like Hero or GURPS?  Personally, I prefer to spend my prep time doing story and worldbuilding.</blockquote>