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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4096162" data-attributes="member: 5202">All these things you list as the classic elements of play are reasons I don't play the classic versions of the game anymore.  Even when I was playing BECMI and AD&D 20 years ago we never had loads of henchmen and when was avoiding monsters ever the better route?  you didn't get XP for that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And for the people who mention people not even being able to keep track of 5 abilities or remember rather simple rules like movement, yes I know it's a social event, but it isn't hard to learn these rules.  If you can't remember a few simple abilities should you even be playing D&D?  Not to sound elitist b/c I'm far from it, the people I've gamed with in the past who had problems like this were either too lazy to read or were just kind of there and didn't really care about what they were doing.  I just don't understand spending a lot of time doing something if you don't enjoy it, so I prefer everyone I game with actually enjoys what we're doing and does the modicum of reading needed to figure out what they're doing with their character.</blockquote>