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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 7999159" data-attributes="member: 205"><p>To clarify, I mean there's no consensus requirement that a revised option be of the same power level as the PHB option it's attempting to revise. (I'd argue that there's much more of a consensus that material not be introduced that's better than already top-tier options like paladins or sorlocks.) It's OK for a revised ranger to be flat out better than the PHB ranger, because there's a fair amount of agreement that the PHB ranger is problematic. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I find druid to be on the lower end of the full casters, balance-wise. (Where casters stand balance-wise compared to non-casters is something I don't think there's strong agreement on, so I'll ignore that aspect for this discussion.) The only problematic parts of Druid, as I see it, are Tier 1 Moon druids, and the extremely problematic 20th level capstone. There are possibly some shenanigans around Conjure X spells, but those are fairly easy to remedy by simply applying the Crawford interpretation of allowable summons. But again, just my opinion.</p><p></p><p>I don't really think it's particularly necessary to discuss hypothetical tradeoffs of features, I've already provided a link to the finished product which can be evaluated holistically. Then specific balance concerns can be raised rather than hypothetical ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 7999159, member: 205"] To clarify, I mean there's no consensus requirement that a revised option be of the same power level as the PHB option it's attempting to revise. (I'd argue that there's much more of a consensus that material not be introduced that's better than already top-tier options like paladins or sorlocks.) It's OK for a revised ranger to be flat out better than the PHB ranger, because there's a fair amount of agreement that the PHB ranger is problematic. Personally, I find druid to be on the lower end of the full casters, balance-wise. (Where casters stand balance-wise compared to non-casters is something I don't think there's strong agreement on, so I'll ignore that aspect for this discussion.) The only problematic parts of Druid, as I see it, are Tier 1 Moon druids, and the extremely problematic 20th level capstone. There are possibly some shenanigans around Conjure X spells, but those are fairly easy to remedy by simply applying the Crawford interpretation of allowable summons. But again, just my opinion. I don't really think it's particularly necessary to discuss hypothetical tradeoffs of features, I've already provided a link to the finished product which can be evaluated holistically. Then specific balance concerns can be raised rather than hypothetical ones. [/QUOTE]
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