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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8066878" data-attributes="member: 6987520">FWIW, even though a grognard myself, I like point-buy the most. It allows a fair amount of customization, prevents one person having god stats and another straight 10's, and is not a rigid &quot;everyone gets the same scores&quot; concept.For the people who want systems that represent what you would get via racial ASIs in the current systems, I'll repeat myself...Remove ASIs for race (and not putting them elsewhere, obviously):ROLLING DICE: 5d6k3 twice and 4d6k3 four times.ARRAY: 16, 15, 13, 12, 10, 9POINT-BUY: 32 points, 16 max costs 11 points.Are they perfect? No. Why? For one thing, because you can't begin with a 20. Sorry. Looks like you'll have to grow into it.Later on, at ASI levels (not including fighter and rogue bonus ones!) you get an ASI +2 and an ASI +1. These can stack if you want. You can replace the ASI +2 with a feat.Otherwise, as [USER=50987]@CleverNickName[/USER] said, there are tons of ways to do it. Determine:A. What range do you want?B. What average do you want?With those two you can devise a rolling system, array, and point-buy that would satisfy any options for the most part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8066878, member: 6987520"] FWIW, even though a grognard myself, I like point-buy the most. It allows a fair amount of customization, prevents one person having god stats and another straight 10's, and is not a rigid "everyone gets the same scores" concept. For the people who want systems that represent what you [I]would[/I] get via racial ASIs in the current systems, I'll repeat myself... Remove ASIs for race (and not putting them elsewhere, obviously): ROLLING DICE: 5d6k3 twice and 4d6k3 four times. ARRAY: 16, 15, 13, 12, 10, 9 POINT-BUY: 32 points, 16 max costs 11 points. Are they perfect? No. Why? For one thing, because you can't begin with a 20. Sorry. Looks like you'll have to grow into it. Later on, at ASI levels (not including fighter and rogue bonus ones!) you get an ASI +2 and an ASI +1. These [I]can[/I] stack if you want. You can replace the ASI +2 with a feat. Otherwise, as [USER=50987]@CleverNickName[/USER] said, there are tons of ways to do it. Determine: A. What range do you want? B. What average do you want? With those two you can devise a rolling system, array, and point-buy that would satisfy any options for the most part. [/QUOTE]

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