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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7787329" data-attributes="member: 177">So, I was there in the 80s, playing the game.  I don't feel like my personal experience is somehow lacking, that I need to accept your assertion of "the ethos" to me.  Nor do I have to accept your assertions of what my mindset is, or what I am imagining.  Please keep your discussion to what I express, not what I think beyond those expressions.With respect, I reject your version of the ethos, and suggest my own:  Nobody really knew what they were doing, and made things up as one-off rulings, with no concern for consistency.On day, lava does X damage.  Next module, it gives a save, and does Y damage.  You try a thing, the GM makes up a ruling on the spot - but it did not become a new rule.  Typically, it was considered a one-off, and the GM forgot what they decided before, and came up with a new ruling the next time you try the same thing, and they didn't match.Yeah, today, we have an ethos that games ought to be well-designed.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Less glibly - the thing you seem to be missing in this is that "it was the ethos" does not make it magically work for everyone.</blockquote>