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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7787910" data-attributes="member: 5142">But you don't get tired though in 5e spellcasting. There are no consequences for being out of spells other than being out of spells. There are other games, again like Blue Rose, which use a skill-based system for magic where fatigue is a potential consequence for magic. 5e is not one of those games good for simulating magical exertion. This is kinda circular reasoning though. The WoT RPG was an adaptation of Wheel of Time for the d20 system, and you appear to be saying that 5e is good for WoT because it is similar to the WoT RPG, which was adapted for the d20 system. It's not even an argument about whether WoT was a good fit for for the d20 system. (It wasn't.) It's okay to like 5e and its Neo-Vancian casting while also recognizing that it's not the best or most appropriate fit for simulating most fictional magic. D&D was not created to be a simulator for a particular fictional work. It came out of wargaming, and back then it was the TTRPG equivalent of a first-person shooter. Much of the D&D framework we inherited comes from its resource game, including its spellcasting. It's a feature. This is what many people cite about D&D's spellcasting system that makes it easy for people to learn. You have a certain number of spells of spell level X than you can cast Y times per day.</blockquote>