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Where was 4e headed before it was canned?
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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7789538" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>My longtooth shifter could hit a 38 athletics during shifting and 40 if I had an appropriate common item (</p><p>another item might give 43 once a day). Arguably the ability to massively front load skills might not actually be a good thing but there it is.</p><p></p><p>Edit ooops one more thing...</p><p>Various powers may also boost my skills some of them are only available at level 2 (the earliest) but others are still class specific and can add 5 to my best achievement some of these boosts will be like the item boost mentioned above only once a day others are once an encounter and others are at-will if you use this power.</p><p></p><p>Note the situational application of powers also means <strong>the player has higher agency</strong> over reaching the greatest extremes,</p><p></p><p>So yes in 4e you definitely do have ways to reach the most difficult stunts</p><p>roll 20, attributes (+5), Race(+2) + background(+1) + feat(3 focus to +5 situationally) + item( 2 to 5) + power (5 depending on power/class and sometimes situational choice or specific skill application ).</p><p></p><p>Some things like the utility power boost are only when doing athletics function X but sometimes they arently limited that way. Some are at-will and others are expending encounter powers and others dailies.</p><p></p><p>It was mentioned earlier that one couldn't use skills as though they were attack actions because they didnt have the same ranges well.... there may be another reason.</p><p></p><p>Oh and this is also a demonstration of how even though level is very important in 4e yes a number of things combine to at least match the benefits of level</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7789538, member: 82504"] My longtooth shifter could hit a 38 athletics during shifting and 40 if I had an appropriate common item ( another item might give 43 once a day). Arguably the ability to massively front load skills might not actually be a good thing but there it is. Edit ooops one more thing... Various powers may also boost my skills some of them are only available at level 2 (the earliest) but others are still class specific and can add 5 to my best achievement some of these boosts will be like the item boost mentioned above only once a day others are once an encounter and others are at-will if you use this power. Note the situational application of powers also means [B]the player has higher agency[/B] over reaching the greatest extremes, So yes in 4e you definitely do have ways to reach the most difficult stunts roll 20, attributes (+5), Race(+2) + background(+1) + feat(3 focus to +5 situationally) + item( 2 to 5) + power (5 depending on power/class and sometimes situational choice or specific skill application ). Some things like the utility power boost are only when doing athletics function X but sometimes they arently limited that way. Some are at-will and others are expending encounter powers and others dailies. It was mentioned earlier that one couldn't use skills as though they were attack actions because they didnt have the same ranges well.... there may be another reason. Oh and this is also a demonstration of how even though level is very important in 4e yes a number of things combine to at least match the benefits of level [/QUOTE]
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