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Where was 4e headed before it was canned?
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7789659" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>All of that arose from you not actually reading what you were replying to (Or purposefully mis-representing what I posted, you never did say which it was) and even now you won't just say yep my bad, should've actually read what you wrote before composing a confusing reply that attributed a stance you didn't actually take so I could argue against it... creating more mis-understanding in the exchange and leading us down a rabbit hole of pointless back and forth... But whatever man.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did I say had a chance at doing anything in the game? Did I say had a chance at doing the impossible in the game?... Come on, here we go again. Can you go back and read what I actually wrote and address it or just quit replying to me because again we're headed towards mis-understandings because somehow from can succeed at <strong>some</strong> of the hardest tasks in the game... you've interpreted my meaning to be succeeds at all of the hardest tasks in the game even the impossible... or any of the hardest tasks in the game including the impossible... neither of which I actually said.</p><p></p><p>If a task is impossible for someone without training... then it's not one of the hardest tasks in the game world... it's an impossible task without training... is that really so hard to comprehend it's in a different category? Now what constitutes an impossible task for someone vs a very hard task is a DM call in 5e... but we knew that already.</p><p></p><p>Just to illustrate further... can you ride a horse without having a horse? Can you pick a lock with no tools? Can you play an instrument without an actual instrument to play... I wouldn't call any of these tasks some of the hardest in the gameworld... but there are still circumstances where they are impossible to succeed at. Determining a particular usage of a skill is trained only is no different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7789659, member: 48965"] All of that arose from you not actually reading what you were replying to (Or purposefully mis-representing what I posted, you never did say which it was) and even now you won't just say yep my bad, should've actually read what you wrote before composing a confusing reply that attributed a stance you didn't actually take so I could argue against it... creating more mis-understanding in the exchange and leading us down a rabbit hole of pointless back and forth... But whatever man. Did I say had a chance at doing anything in the game? Did I say had a chance at doing the impossible in the game?... Come on, here we go again. Can you go back and read what I actually wrote and address it or just quit replying to me because again we're headed towards mis-understandings because somehow from can succeed at [B]some[/B] of the hardest tasks in the game... you've interpreted my meaning to be succeeds at all of the hardest tasks in the game even the impossible... or any of the hardest tasks in the game including the impossible... neither of which I actually said. If a task is impossible for someone without training... then it's not one of the hardest tasks in the game world... it's an impossible task without training... is that really so hard to comprehend it's in a different category? Now what constitutes an impossible task for someone vs a very hard task is a DM call in 5e... but we knew that already. Just to illustrate further... can you ride a horse without having a horse? Can you pick a lock with no tools? Can you play an instrument without an actual instrument to play... I wouldn't call any of these tasks some of the hardest in the gameworld... but there are still circumstances where they are impossible to succeed at. Determining a particular usage of a skill is trained only is no different. [/QUOTE]
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