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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7790405" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>You're asking a question but then your second paragraph is based on assumption that doesn't necessarily follow. So to your first question... Yes it is within the engine to auto-deny a chance of success while simultaneously not doing so for other tasks which have the same DC.</p><p></p><p>To address your second paragraph... I'm not changing the meaning of a DC... the DC is 25 (Very Hard) it will always be 25 for any character granted a roll... so it is DC 25 (Very Hard) but in the stage where a DM is deciding whether a roll is appropriate or not... when at X or above level the roll is appropriate otherwise there is no uncertainty to be rolled for and it is plainly impossible to do at a lower level and to rol would be inappropriate...</p><p></p><p>The DC hasn't changed the judgement on whether a particular character warrants a roll against said DC is what has been decided before we even get to what the DC for the task is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Here's a possibly better example... If I set a hard DC of 25 to hold your breath underwater for 3 hours during a raging storm in the sea for a semi-amphibious PC but give no roll for a non-amphibious PC is that changing the DC or is it judging a roll is inappropriate for the non-amphibious PC because it's just inappropriate, they can't do it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7790405, member: 48965"] You're asking a question but then your second paragraph is based on assumption that doesn't necessarily follow. So to your first question... Yes it is within the engine to auto-deny a chance of success while simultaneously not doing so for other tasks which have the same DC. To address your second paragraph... I'm not changing the meaning of a DC... the DC is 25 (Very Hard) it will always be 25 for any character granted a roll... so it is DC 25 (Very Hard) but in the stage where a DM is deciding whether a roll is appropriate or not... when at X or above level the roll is appropriate otherwise there is no uncertainty to be rolled for and it is plainly impossible to do at a lower level and to rol would be inappropriate... The DC hasn't changed the judgement on whether a particular character warrants a roll against said DC is what has been decided before we even get to what the DC for the task is. EDIT: Here's a possibly better example... If I set a hard DC of 25 to hold your breath underwater for 3 hours during a raging storm in the sea for a semi-amphibious PC but give no roll for a non-amphibious PC is that changing the DC or is it judging a roll is inappropriate for the non-amphibious PC because it's just inappropriate, they can't do it? [/QUOTE]
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