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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7801423" data-attributes="member: 48965">No it doesn't cap the "game system" at 30 but DC's for PC's are based on the level of the PC's unless specifically noted otherwise.  So they effectively cap out at 30.  Can you extrapolate and create higher DC's... sure (just as you can in 5e) but the rules (at least the latest ones in the RC) aren't based around a DM doing this and neither are the DC's in a skill challenge.  As for taking the highest DC for a level 30 character... welll as has already been pointed out earlier... the same is true for the highest DC in 5e.  And I'd disagree it's entirely outside the capability of paragon tier PC's as we've already shown even heroic tier PC's in 4e can accomplish easy to moderate epic tier DC's pretty easily with the right combination of skill/attribute/level/theme and so on. But that's all it is... expectations which any DM can choose to adhere to or not.  It's a form of gatekeeping enforced solely by the DM and mechanically no different than the tiers 5e describes as default.  The main difference I see is 5e spends time talking about how to subvert, change and mod these expectations... while most of 4e's advice is about how to adhere or enforce them.</blockquote>