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<blockquote data-quote="Enkhidu" data-source="post: 945459" data-attributes="member: 351">Here's a tidbit from <a href="http://tft.brainiac.com/archive/0012/msg00005.html" target="_blank">http://tft.brainiac.com/archive/0012/msg00005.html</a> Orc:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Orcneas in beowulf.&nbsp; An Orc-giant derived from the word orcus.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Oxford English Dictionary&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;... His term orcneas, a hybrid composed of a Latin word for &quot;infernal demon&quot; and a Germanic word for the walking dead, epitomizes the dual perception of the monsters.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; Fred C. Robinson Beowulf and the Appositive style 1985 page 83&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;eotenas ond ylfe ond orcneas&nbsp; &nbsp; swylce gigantas&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Old english&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;etins and elves and orcs&nbsp; &nbsp; such giants&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -translation&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Beowulf&nbsp; lines 112-13&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;A different word orc, alluding to a demon or ogre, appears in Old English glosses of about AD 800 and in the compound word orcneas (&quot;monsters&quot;) in the poem Beowulf. As with the Italian orco (&quot;ogre&quot;) and the word ogre itself, it ultimately derives from the Latin Orcus, a god of the underworld. The Old English creatures were most likely the inspiration for the orcs that appear in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings trilogy.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; Encyclopedia Britanica</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Enkhidu, post: 945459, member: 351"] Here's a tidbit from [URL=http://tft.brainiac.com/archive/0012/msg00005.html]http://tft.brainiac.com/archive/0012/msg00005.html[/URL] Orc: Orcneas in beowulf. An Orc-giant derived from the word orcus. Oxford English Dictionary "... His term orcneas, a hybrid composed of a Latin word for "infernal demon" and a Germanic word for the walking dead, epitomizes the dual perception of the monsters." Fred C. Robinson Beowulf and the Appositive style 1985 page 83 "eotenas ond ylfe ond orcneas swylce gigantas" -Old english "etins and elves and orcs such giants" -translation Beowulf lines 112-13 "A different word orc, alluding to a demon or ogre, appears in Old English glosses of about AD 800 and in the compound word orcneas ("monsters") in the poem Beowulf. As with the Italian orco ("ogre") and the word ogre itself, it ultimately derives from the Latin Orcus, a god of the underworld. The Old English creatures were most likely the inspiration for the orcs that appear in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings trilogy." Encyclopedia Britanica [/QUOTE]

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