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<blockquote data-quote="Cognomen's Cassowary" data-source="post: 7080268" data-attributes="member: 6801445"><p>This is not correct. As you say in your next post, magic can affect gravity as easily as it can mass. Also, after all this Newtonian talk, the definition of "weight" that you give in your next post is decidedly non-Newtonian. "Weightless," as used in the spell description, is a much more coherent term in the Newtonian sense, where "weight" is effectively the force a body could exert on a scale in the same state of motion. Thus, a body in free fall is weightless. Similarly, anything neutrally buoyant is weightless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, technically, it has been stated that the occupant can move the sphere up to half his or her speed by using an action. Perhaps he or she has to use an action to "fall" at half his or her speed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you are now at the point where you have violated or ignored the law of the conservation of momentum (by adding momentum to a body in a closed system), Newton's first law of motion (by causing an object at rest to not stay at rest), and Newton's third (by allowing an action without a reaction) in order to make this work the way you want it to. And you say it works this way because <em>magic</em>, after having made a case for the magic working this way because of physics. Okay, just want to make sure we've got that straight. Now the big leap to the conclusion . . . </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that the occupant never had momentum relative to the interior of the sphere. If the sphere stops magically due to a non-Newtonian physical interaction, there is little grounds to insist that the occupant continues to act as a Newtonian body in a Newtonian universe and continues hurtling downward until it has a non-Newtonian physical interaction with the non-Newtonian body of the sphere.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I cannot even conceive of an action without a reaction, and yet you are stating a sequence of a reaction without an action followed by an action without a reaction would have exactly the same consequence as an ordinary action and reaction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, that would be entirely consistent with the ruling that the occupant takes no falling damage, since he or she does not move relative to the sphere--or that the sphere does not fall at all.</p><p></p><p>Not to argue. I just find it a fun exercise. I would simply rule that the occupant takes no damage. Because <em>magic</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cognomen's Cassowary, post: 7080268, member: 6801445"] This is not correct. As you say in your next post, magic can affect gravity as easily as it can mass. Also, after all this Newtonian talk, the definition of "weight" that you give in your next post is decidedly non-Newtonian. "Weightless," as used in the spell description, is a much more coherent term in the Newtonian sense, where "weight" is effectively the force a body could exert on a scale in the same state of motion. Thus, a body in free fall is weightless. Similarly, anything neutrally buoyant is weightless. Well, technically, it has been stated that the occupant can move the sphere up to half his or her speed by using an action. Perhaps he or she has to use an action to "fall" at half his or her speed. So you are now at the point where you have violated or ignored the law of the conservation of momentum (by adding momentum to a body in a closed system), Newton's first law of motion (by causing an object at rest to not stay at rest), and Newton's third (by allowing an action without a reaction) in order to make this work the way you want it to. And you say it works this way because [I]magic[/I], after having made a case for the magic working this way because of physics. Okay, just want to make sure we've got that straight. Now the big leap to the conclusion . . . Except that the occupant never had momentum relative to the interior of the sphere. If the sphere stops magically due to a non-Newtonian physical interaction, there is little grounds to insist that the occupant continues to act as a Newtonian body in a Newtonian universe and continues hurtling downward until it has a non-Newtonian physical interaction with the non-Newtonian body of the sphere. I cannot even conceive of an action without a reaction, and yet you are stating a sequence of a reaction without an action followed by an action without a reaction would have exactly the same consequence as an ordinary action and reaction. Actually, that would be entirely consistent with the ruling that the occupant takes no falling damage, since he or she does not move relative to the sphere--or that the sphere does not fall at all. Not to argue. I just find it a fun exercise. I would simply rule that the occupant takes no damage. Because [I]magic[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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