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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7081536" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>If gravity doesn't pass through the sphere to affect the occupant then there goes hamstering; but the spell allows for hamstering therefore gravity must affect the occupant.</p><p></p><p>Can we all agree on that much?</p><p></p><p>Good.</p><p></p><p>Next: as gravity affects the occupant when the sphere is on the ground it naturally follows that gravity affects the occupant when the sphere is not on the ground; thus meaning either the sphere has to replace the ground or that both occupant and sphere are going to fall toward the ground (for the sake of this I'll ignore crosswinds). Again due to the spell allowing hamstering, thus meaning the occupant can exert physical pressure on the sphere in order to make it move, it's logical that the downward pressure exerted by the occupant on the sphere "floor" due to gravity is going to push the sphere down, and both will fall.</p><p></p><p>Everyone still with me? If not, say so.</p><p></p><p>Now, at what speed they fall is very much open to debate; but again due to logic I'm going to go with the about-30-mph terminal velocity* from Cognomen's calculations, and here's why. It's known that the sphere is affected by outside agencies in that it sits on the ground (rather than plummet into it) and that it can be moved by external physical forces e.g. giants playing football. Therefore the air will also affect it as wind resistance when it tries to fall, slowing it down considerably from the terminal velocity of just the occupant alone.</p><p></p><p>* - one variable not discussed is the weight of the occupant; terminal velocity for a sphere containing a Hobbit will be considerably less than for a sphere containing a rhino.</p><p></p><p>Does anyone disagree yet? Speak up if you do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>So, the primary question: what happens when an occupied sphere impacts something else at speed? This one, as we've seen, is open to interpretation and might have to be ruled on table by table.</p><p></p><p>And a secondary question: if the sphere ends up rolling or tumbling, what happens to the occupant? Do they always stay upright? Do they roll or tumble also; and if yes are they protected from damage or not; and are they protected from motion sickness or not?</p><p></p><p>For my own part, I answer both primary and secondary questions with "ouch" while well realizing others' mileage may vary.</p><p></p><p>Lan-"still wondering what happens if someone hamsters a sphere out into a lake"-efan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7081536, member: 29398"] If gravity doesn't pass through the sphere to affect the occupant then there goes hamstering; but the spell allows for hamstering therefore gravity must affect the occupant. Can we all agree on that much? Good. Next: as gravity affects the occupant when the sphere is on the ground it naturally follows that gravity affects the occupant when the sphere is not on the ground; thus meaning either the sphere has to replace the ground or that both occupant and sphere are going to fall toward the ground (for the sake of this I'll ignore crosswinds). Again due to the spell allowing hamstering, thus meaning the occupant can exert physical pressure on the sphere in order to make it move, it's logical that the downward pressure exerted by the occupant on the sphere "floor" due to gravity is going to push the sphere down, and both will fall. Everyone still with me? If not, say so. Now, at what speed they fall is very much open to debate; but again due to logic I'm going to go with the about-30-mph terminal velocity* from Cognomen's calculations, and here's why. It's known that the sphere is affected by outside agencies in that it sits on the ground (rather than plummet into it) and that it can be moved by external physical forces e.g. giants playing football. Therefore the air will also affect it as wind resistance when it tries to fall, slowing it down considerably from the terminal velocity of just the occupant alone. * - one variable not discussed is the weight of the occupant; terminal velocity for a sphere containing a Hobbit will be considerably less than for a sphere containing a rhino. Does anyone disagree yet? Speak up if you do. :) So, the primary question: what happens when an occupied sphere impacts something else at speed? This one, as we've seen, is open to interpretation and might have to be ruled on table by table. And a secondary question: if the sphere ends up rolling or tumbling, what happens to the occupant? Do they always stay upright? Do they roll or tumble also; and if yes are they protected from damage or not; and are they protected from motion sickness or not? For my own part, I answer both primary and secondary questions with "ouch" while well realizing others' mileage may vary. Lan-"still wondering what happens if someone hamsters a sphere out into a lake"-efan [/QUOTE]
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