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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8074856" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>I agree with Tonguez and disagree with Eyes of Nine.</p><p></p><p>It may not be evident in the often-resetting comic book storylines, but if you look at their famous film adaptations, the characters go through character arcs and growth not just in character, but also in power and abilities.</p><p></p><p>Tony Stark is always learning from his mistakes and failures and errors, and each suit is better and more powerful than the last, using newer and more advanced technology and featuring more innovative ideas sometimes weaker but more useful like his "football" suit i.e. Mark V - it was for situations where he didn't have time to get into the Mark III or Mark IV during Iron Man 2. By Infinity War and Endgame, he's got nano-particle suits with energy shields. This is a far cry from the Mark I suit he built in a cave. FROM A BOX OF SCRAPS!</p><p></p><p>Captain America's martial abilities, fighting style, and equipment advance from film to film. Some of this is technological upgrades from SHIELD or Stark, but his martial abilities are from his own growth.</p><p></p><p>Daredevil's flashbacks to learning from Stick are one thing, but they're really about how he got to be a Level 1 Hero character. He also goes through martial ability, equipment, and power level growth over the course of 3 seasons and a miniseries.</p><p></p><p>Trish Walker (Hellcat) says specifically to Jessica in Season 3 that she's spent the last year honing her martial skills, after the end of a montage of events she was involved in the last year. These are characters who are constantly training and getting better.</p><p></p><p>Even the Hulk goes a long way from his narrow (and scarily violent) victory over Abomination to being the Champion of the Conquest of Champions on an alien world, able to go toe-to-toe with Norse Gods and demons of the apocalypse. Each film he shows up in, it's not a static character. Both Banner the scientist and Hulk the monster grow over the movie series.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps the greatest example of character level up in Marvel is Agent Daisy Johnson aka Skye aka Quake, from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. She goes from being a Rising Tide cyberhacker to a shadow of Agent Coulson to a Level 1 Agent of Shield in Communications (like Coulson), to training with weapons and martial arts under Melinda May (the only agent with more blackbelts than Black Widow) to be a field agent, to going through Terrigenesis and turning into an Inhuman with earthquake powers that she can't control that start taking down everything around her, to turning those powers inward to protect her friends and family and destroy her own bones in the process, to training with power surpressing gauntlets that can help with the bone injuries, to healing from the injuries and learning how to make music and move mountains from an Inhuman teacher, to training to combine her powers with her field agent abilities to take on field missions, to figuring out how to use them to perform sonic resonance to hold open a portal, to unleashing her power and nearly destroying the entire base, to learning how to jump really good with her powers, to going toe-to-toe with freakin' Ghost Rider, to have to learn it all over again in a digital Matrix world, to fight for her life against terribly powerful Kree alien warriors, to becoming powerful enough that she could crack the entire world apart with her powers, to learning how to control said powers and survive the finale of the series (jumped over and brushed over some important spoilers I wouldn't want to give away). That's at LEAST a level 1-15 arc equivalent. And her story's not over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8074856, member: 6803643"] I agree with Tonguez and disagree with Eyes of Nine. It may not be evident in the often-resetting comic book storylines, but if you look at their famous film adaptations, the characters go through character arcs and growth not just in character, but also in power and abilities. Tony Stark is always learning from his mistakes and failures and errors, and each suit is better and more powerful than the last, using newer and more advanced technology and featuring more innovative ideas sometimes weaker but more useful like his "football" suit i.e. Mark V - it was for situations where he didn't have time to get into the Mark III or Mark IV during Iron Man 2. By Infinity War and Endgame, he's got nano-particle suits with energy shields. This is a far cry from the Mark I suit he built in a cave. FROM A BOX OF SCRAPS! Captain America's martial abilities, fighting style, and equipment advance from film to film. Some of this is technological upgrades from SHIELD or Stark, but his martial abilities are from his own growth. Daredevil's flashbacks to learning from Stick are one thing, but they're really about how he got to be a Level 1 Hero character. He also goes through martial ability, equipment, and power level growth over the course of 3 seasons and a miniseries. Trish Walker (Hellcat) says specifically to Jessica in Season 3 that she's spent the last year honing her martial skills, after the end of a montage of events she was involved in the last year. These are characters who are constantly training and getting better. Even the Hulk goes a long way from his narrow (and scarily violent) victory over Abomination to being the Champion of the Conquest of Champions on an alien world, able to go toe-to-toe with Norse Gods and demons of the apocalypse. Each film he shows up in, it's not a static character. Both Banner the scientist and Hulk the monster grow over the movie series. Perhaps the greatest example of character level up in Marvel is Agent Daisy Johnson aka Skye aka Quake, from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. She goes from being a Rising Tide cyberhacker to a shadow of Agent Coulson to a Level 1 Agent of Shield in Communications (like Coulson), to training with weapons and martial arts under Melinda May (the only agent with more blackbelts than Black Widow) to be a field agent, to going through Terrigenesis and turning into an Inhuman with earthquake powers that she can't control that start taking down everything around her, to turning those powers inward to protect her friends and family and destroy her own bones in the process, to training with power surpressing gauntlets that can help with the bone injuries, to healing from the injuries and learning how to make music and move mountains from an Inhuman teacher, to training to combine her powers with her field agent abilities to take on field missions, to figuring out how to use them to perform sonic resonance to hold open a portal, to unleashing her power and nearly destroying the entire base, to learning how to jump really good with her powers, to going toe-to-toe with freakin' Ghost Rider, to have to learn it all over again in a digital Matrix world, to fight for her life against terribly powerful Kree alien warriors, to becoming powerful enough that she could crack the entire world apart with her powers, to learning how to control said powers and survive the finale of the series (jumped over and brushed over some important spoilers I wouldn't want to give away). That's at LEAST a level 1-15 arc equivalent. And her story's not over. [/QUOTE]
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