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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8084351" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Here's the thing which continues to bother me, and I think it is brought to life amazingly well in Lovecraft Country. Funny that!</p><p></p><p>What do you do when you love something that doesn't love you back? To be both banal and specific, the intertwined themes of characters who are both marginalized by the "geek culture" that they want to be a part of as well as the nation that they are a part of are omnipresent; it is hardly a shock that Tic (Atticus) loves both pulp sci fi (and Lovecraft) and served in the military, both things that his ... father ... Montrose told him not to do.</p><p></p><p>I think that this is not, and has not been, uncommon. Gay and transgender people have found representations in a predominant culture that, for the most part, has not loved them back- either coded, or sometimes just read in. The existence of any marginalized people, anywhere, often exists in a weird state with regard to the predominant culture; this tension always exists, and can be dealt with movingly and thoughtfully (Lovecraft Country and race) or humorously and crassly (as in Larry David, Wagner, and anti-Semitism). </p><p></p><p>But I cringe when I see people move to identify the authors with the text. Was Lovecraft a raging jerk, a racist, an anti-Semite, and more? Sure. Was he the worst? No. He didn't kill someone. He didn't lynch anyone. He had abhorrent thoughts- but so did a lot of people at that time. Burroughs <em>killed his wife. </em>We could go down through the line, but once we start to get rid of art based on changing ideas about what the artists should or shouldn't have done ... that is not a world I am comfortable with.</p><p></p><p>Applying modern standards to people from the past is fool's game, and I refuse to be any part of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8084351, member: 7023840"] Here's the thing which continues to bother me, and I think it is brought to life amazingly well in Lovecraft Country. Funny that! What do you do when you love something that doesn't love you back? To be both banal and specific, the intertwined themes of characters who are both marginalized by the "geek culture" that they want to be a part of as well as the nation that they are a part of are omnipresent; it is hardly a shock that Tic (Atticus) loves both pulp sci fi (and Lovecraft) and served in the military, both things that his ... father ... Montrose told him not to do. I think that this is not, and has not been, uncommon. Gay and transgender people have found representations in a predominant culture that, for the most part, has not loved them back- either coded, or sometimes just read in. The existence of any marginalized people, anywhere, often exists in a weird state with regard to the predominant culture; this tension always exists, and can be dealt with movingly and thoughtfully (Lovecraft Country and race) or humorously and crassly (as in Larry David, Wagner, and anti-Semitism). But I cringe when I see people move to identify the authors with the text. Was Lovecraft a raging jerk, a racist, an anti-Semite, and more? Sure. Was he the worst? No. He didn't kill someone. He didn't lynch anyone. He had abhorrent thoughts- but so did a lot of people at that time. Burroughs [I]killed his wife. [/I]We could go down through the line, but once we start to get rid of art based on changing ideas about what the artists should or shouldn't have done ... that is not a world I am comfortable with. Applying modern standards to people from the past is fool's game, and I refuse to be any part of it. [/QUOTE]
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