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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4021833" data-attributes="member: 32536"><p>I think I would prefer Bards to stick to music, really...</p><p></p><p>A bard as a general "artist" is a highly flawed concept. Oration is similar enough to music, but a writer or painter? I can't imagine that working at all. Music is auditory, it affects those who listen to it. It affects people at a deep level, and is not based on logic or detailed interpretation. Most importantly, music can be performed even in the middle of a battlefield, and you don't need to stop and contemplate it in order for it to have an effect on you. I really can't imagine that Bardic abilities will just be rooted in the artistic talents of the bard <em>off</em> the battlefield, and I imagine that the auditory element will play an important role. It is not like a writer can just write a book on the battlefield, or a painter can paint anything interesting in a short period of time, and yet, shouldn't a Bard be doing artistic things even on the battlefield? Isn't that what makes them unique?</p><p></p><p>I don't know... If I were designing the classes, I would never try to fold all kinds of art into the same class. If I wanted a painter/writer/sculptor class, I would think it would be better suited as the kind of person who creates art outside of battle, and then magically brings it to life in the battle, or something like that (it even hits on a few pop culture ideas of magical artists and a few folktales), while I would be fine with magical musicians who sings in the middle of a fight. It just don't seem like such different art forms can be reconciled in the same class very effectively.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 4021833, member: 32536"] I think I would prefer Bards to stick to music, really... A bard as a general "artist" is a highly flawed concept. Oration is similar enough to music, but a writer or painter? I can't imagine that working at all. Music is auditory, it affects those who listen to it. It affects people at a deep level, and is not based on logic or detailed interpretation. Most importantly, music can be performed even in the middle of a battlefield, and you don't need to stop and contemplate it in order for it to have an effect on you. I really can't imagine that Bardic abilities will just be rooted in the artistic talents of the bard [i]off[/i] the battlefield, and I imagine that the auditory element will play an important role. It is not like a writer can just write a book on the battlefield, or a painter can paint anything interesting in a short period of time, and yet, shouldn't a Bard be doing artistic things even on the battlefield? Isn't that what makes them unique? I don't know... If I were designing the classes, I would never try to fold all kinds of art into the same class. If I wanted a painter/writer/sculptor class, I would think it would be better suited as the kind of person who creates art outside of battle, and then magically brings it to life in the battle, or something like that (it even hits on a few pop culture ideas of magical artists and a few folktales), while I would be fine with magical musicians who sings in the middle of a fight. It just don't seem like such different art forms can be reconciled in the same class very effectively. [/QUOTE]
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