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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 2423017" data-attributes="member: 2238">FR is a setting.  And its grimmer than people give it credit for.   I do not have to "work" to make the Realms Grim and Gritty.  There's slaves and rape aplenty in the relams.  Its there and you can see it bleeding out from between the lines.  And try telling the Necromancer guys that you would have to Work to make the Wilderlands Grim and Gritty.  They would tell you that its what YOU make it.  If the Zhents in my game don't take crap and snuf several parties in a row for being stupid, what kind of realms is that?  Just because I am more realistic means I am playing the realms wrong?  No where do the book say that the good guys win all the time.  And in fact most of those partys weren't good in any case.  But we didn't have to change the info in the setting to get this, we just had to be more real.  Basicly WH is a rule set that make it harder to be a p--sy DM, regardless of the setting.</blockquote>