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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5032322" data-attributes="member: 82106">Nope, never used anything but dice back in the day in our neck of the woods <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The problem with rolling is you really do get a LOT of variation. I've seen some pretty buffy rolled PCs. You get a couple 18s or three 16s and you can suddenly not only meet pretty much any old feat prereq but you can do some fairly significant optimizing. A character like that will clock in at a power level pretty much level + 1 vs a standard point buy. You could throw out the outlying stat sets, but then again you could just use point buy and probably get the same numbers. At that point the question is if you've gained anything. Rolling does have a certain old school appeal to it, but I also remember a lot of badness involved with people playing stuff they didn't like and wimpy boring characters with 4 12's a 14 and and a 9. Meanwhile the guy down the table has an 18 STR and a 16 CON or something. And don't even get me started on rolling hit points. What do you do with a 2 hit point first level fighter?</blockquote>