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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1619537" data-attributes="member: 1622">I think people play bards incorrectly.&nbsp; They put really high stats in charisma and intelligence and neglect the combat stats, then whine when they suck in combat.&nbsp; Yes, bards are another multistat class, perhaps worse than any other, because of all their stats, only wisdom isn't inherently useful (not counting will saves). Give a bard decent strength, half decent dex and con, and good charisma, and he'll be rockin'.&nbsp; Bards are just as good at combat as clerics, the most overpowered class.&nbsp; Sure, they can't wear full plate, but they can wear a chain shirt, cast cat's grace, and alter self (+6 natural armor?&nbsp; Yes please!).&nbsp; Inspire courage at lower levels is nice but not game breaking, but once it hits +2 at 8th, it's a real powerhouse.&nbsp; Add in inspire greatness, and someone's getting +4 to hit and +2 to damage, plus 2d10+2*con hitpoints.&nbsp; Hello!&nbsp;&nbsp; Don't forget haste!&nbsp; Bards can fight if you build them like a melee cleric.And don't forget, bards get good reflex saves!&nbsp; You talk about survivability, well, the bard only has one less hitpoint per level than the cleric, but has a way better reflex save... who's going to survive more fireballs?I almost chose rogue, because they're really one trick ponies.... they have their sneak attack, and umm.... yeah.&nbsp; That's about it.&nbsp; Sure they have a lot of skillpoints, but they're also expected by the rest of the party to have several skills maxed out, if not more (search, disable device, hide, move silently, open locks).... They're a swiss army knife that can jab you in the kidneys, and that's about.&nbsp; Really sucks when the guy has no kidneys.I chose sorcerers... I thought it was funny someone said they're good because they're versatile.&nbsp; They're the most unversatile of classes.&nbsp; Here's my spell.&nbsp; It's what I cast.&nbsp; When I'm out of that spell, I cast this slightly less good spell.&nbsp; Talk about lack of versatility.&nbsp; Sheesh.&nbsp; A Specialist wizard will know way more spells, and has almost as many spells per day, plus gets bonus feats.&nbsp; Going into the volcano of doom?&nbsp; Wizard stocks up on cold spells.&nbsp; Going into the antarctic?&nbsp; Wizard stocks up on fire spells.&nbsp; The sorcerer.... well, he just has to hope the DM is kind.-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 1619537, member: 1622"] I think people play bards incorrectly. They put really high stats in charisma and intelligence and neglect the combat stats, then whine when they suck in combat. Yes, bards are another multistat class, perhaps worse than any other, because of all their stats, only wisdom isn't inherently useful (not counting will saves). Give a bard decent strength, half decent dex and con, and good charisma, and he'll be rockin'. Bards are just as good at combat as clerics, the most overpowered class. Sure, they can't wear full plate, but they can wear a chain shirt, cast cat's grace, and alter self (+6 natural armor? Yes please!). Inspire courage at lower levels is nice but not game breaking, but once it hits +2 at 8th, it's a real powerhouse. Add in inspire greatness, and someone's getting +4 to hit and +2 to damage, plus 2d10+2*con hitpoints. Hello! Don't forget haste! [b]Bards can fight if you build them like a melee cleric.[/b] And don't forget, bards get good reflex saves! You talk about survivability, well, the bard only has one less hitpoint per level than the cleric, but has a way better reflex save... who's going to survive more fireballs? I almost chose rogue, because they're really one trick ponies.... they have their sneak attack, and umm.... yeah. That's about it. Sure they have a lot of skillpoints, but they're also expected by the rest of the party to have several skills maxed out, if not more (search, disable device, hide, move silently, open locks).... They're a swiss army knife that can jab you in the kidneys, and that's about. Really sucks when the guy has no kidneys. I chose sorcerers... I thought it was funny someone said they're good because they're versatile. They're the most unversatile of classes. Here's my spell. It's what I cast. When I'm out of that spell, I cast this slightly less good spell. Talk about lack of versatility. Sheesh. A Specialist wizard will know way more spells, and has almost as many spells per day, plus gets bonus feats. Going into the volcano of doom? Wizard stocks up on cold spells. Going into the antarctic? Wizard stocks up on fire spells. The sorcerer.... well, he just has to hope the DM is kind. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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