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<blockquote data-quote="buzzard" data-source="post: 1620454" data-attributes="member: 3003">I'd have to say that paladins are the creampuffs. Sure, we all know that a bard is mincemeat if it gets up front, but my fighter ends up a much happier camper when a reasonably high level bards starts up the music. We recently did a battle interactive in LG, and the combination of inspire courage and inspire greatness was a wonderful thing. We just had to keep the bard alive. Now mind you, I would not want a bard at my table if we only had four players. However as player 5 or 6, they are quite useful. The paladin OTOH, is a creampuff. Sure they get a few cool spells. However they aren't as good as the cleric in this. The truth is they are supposed to be melee combatants, and they fail by comparison with fighters and barbarians. Any paladin which expects to be useful will have to take a prestige class (Templar most commonly or maybe Knight of the Middle Circle). buzzard</blockquote>

[QUOTE="buzzard, post: 1620454, member: 3003"] I'd have to say that paladins are the creampuffs. Sure, we all know that a bard is mincemeat if it gets up front, but my fighter ends up a much happier camper when a reasonably high level bards starts up the music. We recently did a battle interactive in LG, and the combination of inspire courage and inspire greatness was a wonderful thing. We just had to keep the bard alive. Now mind you, I would not want a bard at my table if we only had four players. However as player 5 or 6, they are quite useful. The paladin OTOH, is a creampuff. Sure they get a few cool spells. However they aren't as good as the cleric in this. The truth is they are supposed to be melee combatants, and they fail by comparison with fighters and barbarians. Any paladin which expects to be useful will have to take a prestige class (Templar most commonly or maybe Knight of the Middle Circle). buzzard [/QUOTE]

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