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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5788313" data-attributes="member: 92511">I don't get the &quot;Fighter hate&quot;...or is it &quot;Fighter sucks&quot; I have seen and read about over and over on these threads.You want to have a sword and shield, and get up in everyone's face...you're a Fighter.You want to have a spear and short bow to strike from reach/range...you're a Fighter.You want to be a dual-wielding hand-axe dude...ok, fine, once upon a time you needed to be a Ranger for 2-weapon fighting, but in this day and age...you're a Fighter. And even then, a ranger is/was just a sub-class of Fighter.You want to be a grizzled veteran with a heavy crossbow who is past putting himself in harm's way...you're a Fighter.You want to wear a fur bikini and carry a battle axe....you're a Fighter. You can be a Barbarian...but you don't have to be.You want to wear plate and carry a shield with a broad sword, acting as &quot;defense&quot; more than &quot;offense&quot;....yes, you are a Fighter. Unless you want to include the &quot;religious&quot; element to your character in which case, we'll call you &quot;Paladin&quot;...or not if you don't want (a character can have a religious bent without all out &quot;devotion&quot; and &quot;godly intervention&quot;).A soldier, a knight, a lightly-armored heavily-armed mercenary, an archer, a swordsman/axeman/spearman, a monster-hunter, a treasure-hunter...you're a Fighter.It is, by far, the most adaptable/customizable class concept of any...open to a multitude of archetypes that do not require individual &quot;classes&quot; for every incarnation! Second, I would say, is the rogue (thief)...as one of the two base non-caster classes should be. They are the &quot;I'm doin' it on my own&quot; class...no magic...no godly powers...no &quot;shady street or underworld skills&quot;...just my own ability (Strength!) and training and determination. I'm a FIGHTER! Is the disapproval just cuz &quot;Fighter&quot; sounds too &quot;lame&quot; or too &quot;old skool&quot; compared to &quot;Warblade&quot; or &quot;Slayer&quot; or &quot;Super-damage Dude&quot;?I am curious.--SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5788313, member: 92511"] I don't get the "Fighter hate"...or is it "Fighter sucks" I have seen and read about over and over on these threads. You want to have a sword and shield, and get up in everyone's face...you're a Fighter. You want to have a spear and short bow to strike from reach/range...you're a Fighter. You want to be a dual-wielding hand-axe dude...ok, fine, once upon a time you needed to be a Ranger for 2-weapon fighting, but in this day and age...you're a Fighter. And even then, a ranger is/was just a sub-class of Fighter. You want to be a grizzled veteran with a heavy crossbow who is past putting himself in harm's way...you're a Fighter. You want to wear a fur bikini and carry a battle axe....you're a Fighter. You [I]can[/I] be a Barbarian...but you don't [I]have[/I] to be. You want to wear plate and carry a shield with a broad sword, acting as "defense" more than "offense"....yes, you are a Fighter. Unless you want to include the "religious" element to your character in which case, we'll call you "Paladin"...or not if you don't want (a character can have a religious bent without all out "devotion" and "godly intervention"). A soldier, a knight, a lightly-armored heavily-armed mercenary, an archer, a swordsman/axeman/spearman, a monster-hunter, a treasure-hunter...you're a Fighter. It is, by far, the most adaptable/customizable class concept of any...open to a multitude of archetypes that do not require individual "classes" for every incarnation! Second, I would say, is the rogue (thief)...as one of the two base non-caster classes should be. They are the "I'm doin' it on my own" class...no magic...no godly powers...no "shady street or underworld skills"...just my own ability (Strength!) and training and determination. I'm a FIGHTER! Is the disapproval just cuz "Fighter" sounds too "lame" or too "old skool" compared to "Warblade" or "Slayer" or "Super-damage Dude"? I am curious. --SD [/QUOTE]

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