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<blockquote data-quote="Siberys" data-source="post: 5643335" data-attributes="member: 30619">To expand upon my earlier post;FR (and Golarion, since it's been mentioned and it has the same problem, IMO) have never been able to grab my attention; they're both way too 'Kitchen sinky' - they have no apparent overridng theme, things are all over the place, everything seems like a pastiche of some real-world culture, so on and so forth. I've only run Golarion when I've done a Paizo AP, and it hasn't ever inspired me beyond the AP. Well, that's not entirely true; Numeria is awesome. But one country out of 40 or 50 something?Eberron and Dark Sun are both unique in that there was a solid attempt to avoid falling into tropes like 'THIS IS FANTASY EGYPT' (cultural themes of Dark Sun city-states notwithstanding, as those end up being minor flavor-points for the most part anyways). I mean, Eberron is definitely kitchen sinky, but it does it in a way that makes everything distinctly Eberrony, whereas FR and Golarion don't make the stuff FRy or Golariony.I don't love PoL, but it's generic without being Pasticheland, and it stays interesting. I don't really consider it to be a setting as much as a frame of reference, though.I guess it comes down to this; even if I know rationally that I couldn't have done the quality work that went into FR and Golarion, I look at them and think &quot;I could have done this at home with an atlas and a fantasy name generator&quot;. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />All IMO and YMMV, of course.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Siberys, post: 5643335, member: 30619"] To expand upon my earlier post; FR (and Golarion, since it's been mentioned and it has the same problem, IMO) have never been able to grab my attention; they're both way too 'Kitchen sinky' - they have no apparent overridng theme, things are all over the place, everything seems like a pastiche of some real-world culture, so on and so forth. I've only run Golarion when I've done a Paizo AP, and it hasn't ever inspired me beyond the AP. Well, that's not entirely true; Numeria is awesome. But one country out of 40 or 50 something? Eberron and Dark Sun are both unique in that there was a solid attempt to avoid falling into tropes like 'THIS IS FANTASY EGYPT' (cultural themes of Dark Sun city-states notwithstanding, as those end up being minor flavor-points for the most part anyways). I mean, Eberron is definitely kitchen sinky, but it does it in a way that makes everything distinctly Eberrony, whereas FR and Golarion don't make the stuff FRy or Golariony. I don't love PoL, but it's generic without being Pasticheland, and it stays interesting. I don't really consider it to be a setting as much as a frame of reference, though. I guess it comes down to this; even if I know rationally that I couldn't have done the quality work that went into FR and Golarion, I look at them and think "I could have done this at home with an atlas and a fantasy name generator". :erm: All IMO and YMMV, of course. [/QUOTE]

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