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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8336970" data-attributes="member: 93670">My big ones are linked to buy in.&nbsp; Players with Main Character Syndrome(MCS) who lead wall flowers by the nose and have some novel level backstory that they are writing in their head/between games that must take precedence over anything.&nbsp; Game goes in a direction away from MCS PC's motivations &amp; they grouse about how they really want to go do x but will tag along anyways.&nbsp; I give the MCS PC a hook that feeds into their metaplot &amp; suddenly they ignore it, because they envision their character discovering that in a different way because they have some away from table written backstory that conflicts with it, or just because they see it developing different.&nbsp; I solve their distraction of an issue* &amp; they ask me about ways to roll back the issue.&nbsp; This isn't a problem if there are enough other players at the tale willing to step up &amp; counter it, but too many wall flowers who passively sit back being dragged along makes it a serious problem that can be difficult to solveNo offense but &quot;I'm a role player and...&quot; or &quot;This is what my character would do&quot; are the ttrpg equivalent of &quot;no offense but&quot;.&nbsp; In nearly every case phrases like those are uttered the next few words might as well be &quot;I don't want to come off as a huge jerk so lets just dance around the fact that I'm spitting in the faces of one or more other players at the table&quot;In past editions there was things like the need to accumulate wealth &amp; better gear that could be dangled out to foil it, but in 5e with magic items unsupported by the system's math &amp; no need to do either it's pretty much impossible to do that to any meaningful degree leaving the GM with an empty quiver when it comes to dealing with these kind of things* i.e. a 2500 year old half dragon lich (Erandis Vol) is unexpectedly asked if she can make the pc no longer warped&nbsp; by his aberrant mark completely out of theblue &amp; surprise she's both sympathetic as well as capable but the very next session the player is asking about how he wants to undo it because it was too easy</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8336970, member: 93670"] My big ones are linked to buy in. Players with Main Character Syndrome(MCS) who lead wall flowers by the nose and have some novel level backstory that they are writing in their head/between games that must take precedence over anything. Game goes in a direction away from MCS PC's motivations & they grouse about how they really want to go do x but will tag along anyways. I give the MCS PC a hook that feeds into their metaplot & suddenly they ignore it, because they envision their character discovering that in a different way because they have some away from table written backstory that conflicts with it, or just because they see it developing different. I solve their distraction of an issue* & they ask me about ways to roll back the issue. This isn't a problem if there are enough other players at the tale willing to step up & counter it, but too many wall flowers who passively sit back being dragged along makes it a serious problem that can be difficult to solve [B]No offense but [/B]"I'm a [I]role[/I] player and..." or "This is what my character would do" are the ttrpg equivalent of "no offense but". In nearly every case phrases like those are uttered the next few words might as well be "I don't want to come off as a huge jerk so lets just dance around the fact that I'm spitting in the faces of one or more other players at the table" In past editions there was things like the [I]need[/I] to accumulate wealth & better gear that could be dangled out to foil it, but in 5e with magic items unsupported by the system's math & no need to do either it's pretty much impossible to do that to any meaningful degree leaving the GM with an empty quiver when it comes to dealing with these kind of things * i.e. a 2500 year old half dragon lich (Erandis Vol) is unexpectedly asked if she can make the pc no longer warped by his aberrant mark completely out of theblue & surprise she's both sympathetic as well as capable but the very next session the player is asking about how he wants to undo it because it was too easy [/QUOTE]

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