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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 3742346" data-attributes="member: 19857">Oooh, oooh!&nbsp; I kind of &quot;average out&quot; to being neutral on Spelljammer.&nbsp; I love the idea of fantasy space travel, with flying ships and travelling to different worlds through the void of space.&nbsp; It's a great visual, and it makes for some great ideas.But using established campaign settings?&nbsp; And the whole &quot;crystal spheres/phlogiston&quot; stuff?&nbsp; And the way the spelljammer helms worked (effectively voiding out your wizard's usefullness except as a fuel source)?&nbsp; And just about every flavor element of the setting?&nbsp; Active loathing.&nbsp; I mean serious, active loathing of the whole thing.So, on balance I'm neutral towards spelljammer.&nbsp; I did really like the update done for Dungeon magazine a few years back though - it had everything I liked about the setting and managed to gloss over almost everything I hated.&nbsp; If they did a revamped Spelljammer setting that was a setting unto itself - no connections to the Realms or Greyhawk or (shudder) Krynn at all, and they got rid of the crystal spheres and came up with a way to keep the ships flavorful without crippling one of the characters, I would buy it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 3742346, member: 19857"] Oooh, oooh! I kind of "average out" to being neutral on Spelljammer. I love the idea of fantasy space travel, with flying ships and travelling to different worlds through the void of space. It's a great visual, and it makes for some great ideas. But using established campaign settings? And the whole "crystal spheres/phlogiston" stuff? And the way the spelljammer helms worked (effectively voiding out your wizard's usefullness except as a fuel source)? And just about every flavor element of the setting? Active loathing. I mean serious, active loathing of the whole thing. So, on balance I'm neutral towards spelljammer. I did really like the update done for Dungeon magazine a few years back though - it had everything I liked about the setting and managed to gloss over almost everything I hated. If they did a revamped Spelljammer setting that was a setting unto itself - no connections to the Realms or Greyhawk or (shudder) Krynn at all, and they got rid of the crystal spheres and came up with a way to keep the ships flavorful without crippling one of the characters, I would buy it. [/QUOTE]

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