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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2767361" data-attributes="member: 19675">I voted other.I believe that the secular martial artist is underrepresented.&nbsp; The 2 base classes that are optimized for &quot;unarmed&quot; combat are the Monk and the Oriental Adventures Shaman- both classes inextricably linked to faith.&nbsp; Then there's the grappler, a PrCl.The guys who turn to martial arts as a pure expression of the art of war as opposed to a spiritual outlet are out there.&nbsp; They exist.&nbsp; But with the exception of the Grappler PrCl, they are absent from the game.I also believe the &quot;scientist&quot; type is underrepresented- up until the Artificer showed up, you didn't really have much of anything...and even that isn't much more than a dressed up wizard.I'm talking about the guys who build the clockwork critters, the ones who are &quot;true&quot; followers of Hephaestus, the ones looking for &quot;non-magical&quot; ways to do the job of magic.&nbsp; Guys who use &quot;alchemy&quot; to great effect (like Terry Brooks' character, Cogline).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2767361, member: 19675"] I voted other. I believe that the secular martial artist is underrepresented. The 2 base classes that are optimized for "unarmed" combat are the Monk and the Oriental Adventures Shaman- both classes inextricably linked to faith. Then there's the grappler, a PrCl. The guys who turn to martial arts as a pure expression of the art of war as opposed to a spiritual outlet are out there. They exist. But with the exception of the Grappler PrCl, they are absent from the game. I also believe the "scientist" type is underrepresented- up until the Artificer showed up, you didn't really have much of anything...and even that isn't much more than a dressed up wizard. I'm talking about the guys who build the clockwork critters, the ones who are "true" followers of Hephaestus, the ones looking for "non-magical" ways to do the job of magic. Guys who use "alchemy" to great effect (like Terry Brooks' character, Cogline). [/QUOTE]

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